This is literally the only reason to fork over cash to spotify, are they insane?
(En)Shittify
Is this news site Peter Thiels?
It’s like reddit for techbros that gush about the latest fads and startups. Not sure who owns it, but it’s probably the worst venture capitalists. The moderation is very heavy against anyone that becomes even slightly politically aware.
Ycombinator is peter thiel. This is a news aggregator and social media site housed in his network. Fucking losers.
Amazon does it, YouTube does it. Everyone will do it eventually. Greed has no threshold
YouTube does not do that, unless you’re referring to sponsorships which are mostly handled and organized and introduced to the viewer apart from YouTube’s meddling.
It has the threshold its victims allow by maintaining a relationship with the greedy.
I posted this when Youtube was doing it by ‘mistake’ too…
If you are paying to not receive ads, and you receive an ad by mistake, they should pay you whatever they earned on the ad. Now… I doubt they’ll actually pay you dollars, but lets say at minimum 1 day of free extended service per ad, but if they earn more than 1 days worth via the ad, then it should be whatever that is.
From HN comments:
This is just the latest in a series of vibe-coding caused bugs, Spotify famously claimed their best devs were no longer writing any of their own code:
Took them longer than I expected.
I went back to Winamp last year and don’t regret it at all.
Where do you get the media from, though
Your local library should rent CD’s. Rent 'em and rip 'em into mp3’s and BOOM!, Robert’s your dad’s brother.
Behold the Atlantean and their mastery of laser decoding mechanisms!
Remember CDs? Actually owning stuff?
Yarr matey!
Signs your business model has truly failed.
They alll fail when forever gain growth is the expectation.
Time to switch to Qobuz then. Goodbye Spotify.
And then they wonder why everyone is fixing the hulls of their ships and getting new sails.
Edit: whats family plan these days? 20€/month? My local record shop has new albums for 20€. I’d guess you can find a lot of good stuff on sale for 10€. So might as well buy an album or two per month. In a year you’d already have 12-24 albums. You can make a decent playlist out of those. Do that for a few years and you have a excellent music collection that lasts decades. Spotify is stupid and pointless if you really think about it.
Well, not really. I’ve discovered a ton of music in the past couple years I never would have bought or even had access to, without streaming. But Spotify does suck, I much prefer YouTube Music, which comes with Premium.
I should really learn to not make these sort of ultimatum type statements.
Of course there’s some good things about it. But I’ve never been a spotify user, I’ve discovered a whole lot of stuff through things like last.fm, youtube and just music themed internet forums and IRC etc. So I wont argue that you can’t find stuff through spotify, but I’ll say that there are other ways to discover things, making spotify not necessary but helpful in that regard.
Or self hosting their own Jellyfin
It’s the same thing.
A music collection on your harddive is a joy for you personally for ever
A music collection on a VPS hosting a Jellyfin with accounts for your family and friends is a joy forever for all your family and friends (as long as you pay the hosting fees)
A music collection on your harddive is a joy for you personally for ever
As long as you take care of backups
The hard drive that I bought last year and need for backing up has doubled in price. $500 fucking for 22TB… I have no clue what to do now…
Some consolation that most if not all of your music is backed up on the internet.
Instead of paying monthly for a VPS you could get a mini PC from eBay for 100 dollars and host it yourself
I’ve been saying that for years. Now I have about 250 albums drm-free on Bandcamp. A good chunk of that money went to the people making the music, too.
I know there are people out there paying a subscription to Spotify who listen to the same dozen albums over and over, too.
Remember, only shop on Bandcamp Fridays, when all the money goes to the artists. The corporate owners are not playing nice with the employee union.
Yup exactly. Since I still pirate, I haven’t bought albums very actively, only here and there but I have about 120-130 albums in my shelf. I have a friend who uses spotify, he has connected it to Last.fm. I once checked and he’s been scrobbling since 2016… he has 80 unique albums on the list there. Seems like a waste of money, but hey, at least its not my money.
1.: I divide the payment of Family across 3 members.
2.: I listen to so many songs individually, it would bankrupt me to buy every single song individually or the full album.
3.: I’ll buy an album (2nd hand discogs (so good)/ebay, digitally on wherever or bandcamp). If I don’t like the music as much or the buying process is annoying, I’ll pirate the song.So yeah. It depends.
Yeah, but Spotify is and always has been a really poorly designed app. Google sucks in a lot of ways, but YouTube Music is a great platform.
The minute I have ads in my paid subscription it’s a cancel
Yeah same here, I’ve been procrastinating while I gradually build my collection of mp3s/flacs, but the second I hear an ad on Spotify I’m done.
Exactly why I canceled Amazon Prime. 100% would recommend canceling. I don’t miss it.
Likewise. I’ve been putting off setting up a Soulseek+Navidrome stack on my home server. I’m sure there’s a way to integrate ListenBrainz suggestions too. First ad I hear, I’m doing it.
I think you can integrate lidarr into SoulSeek too.
Soulseek for the win what is navidrome, i’m unfamiliar.
It’s a self-hosted music streaming server. Basically a build-your-own-Spotify. Available as a Docker image.
Hell yeah, today is the day
I use Navidrome and scrobble to ListenBrainz and Last.fm for suggestions. I’ve recently learnt about Sonobarr but haven’t tried it yet.
It’s not as seamless as playing a song/artist station on spotify or just letting it decide what to continue with at the end of a playlist, but it’s also free (in both ways!).
Thanks a lot for the tips!
Can’t talk about navidrome, but jellyfin has a listenbrainz plugin :)
I use Jellyfin for video but it doesn’t strike me as the best for audio…
Now I have a problem with this statement in a vacuum.
Zero: I am based in Germany. So not as many dystopian laws and decisions as in the USA
First: Yes, Spotify bad, Hooray Jellyfin, ripping CDs and owning the media you have. Also good for the artists.
Second: I had ads played to me. But it only happened on podcasts.
Third: I had talked to the Spotify support: https://imgur.com/a/Ulis7Oe
(TLDR: Podcast publishers (e.g. LTT with their WANshow or Dallas Taylor with 20 Thousand Hertz) can decide if they want to play ads. They happened to me inbetween episodes)So yeah. Now it would be very interesting what this random person encountered where.
My wife and daughter had heard ads sparingly and they only listen to music. I assumed it was some sort of bug because it is very infrequent, but with today’s corps I should probably invoke the inverse of Hanlon’s Razor and just assume malice.
Hanlon's RazorWhose Hanlon and why do you need his razor? It’s more hygienic to buy one from the storeIn case you don’t actually know what it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon’s_razor
Tidal is better
Navidrome is even better
YouTube Music ReVanced is best, because it’s both free and ad-free.
Unfortunately you have to sacrifice on sound quality, because it’s YouTube. However the song selection can not be beat by any other platform.
Qobuz > Navidrome > Tidal
Although Navidrome, if going legally, I’ve only found Bandcamp Fridays practical for buying music so far: https://isitbandcampfriday.com/
I wish it was for me (truly I do), but I listen to most of my music in the car. It didn’t buffer the next set of songs nearly as well as Spotify, so when I went through low signal areas the music just stopped playing. And the Android Auto app wasn’t as good. The sound quality was minimally better, but not good enough to overcome the other issues.
Thats why I keep an old iPod too :)
I buy my music from the artists as directly as possible via Band Camp.
