For future reference, here’s your proof its possible to be remotely moved, which means a hacker could exploit it.
In very limited circumstances such as to facilitate movement of the AV out of a freeway lane onto an adjacent shoulder, if possible, our Event Response agents are able to remotely move the Waymo AV under strict parameters, including at a very low speed over a very short distance.
(not op) Right here. It’s the only place they’ve ever admitted its possible.
In very limited circumstances such as to facilitate movement of the AV out of a freeway lane onto an adjacent shoulder, if possible, our Event Response agents are able to remotely move the Waymo AV under strict parameters, including at a very low speed over a very short distance.
For anyone that is curious, Waymo actually is capable of remote moving the vehicles despite what they say. They do their best not to admit it’s possible, but it’s right in the CPUC filings as a footnote, and probably the only place they’ll ever admit it.
In very limited circumstances such as to facilitate movement of the AV out of a freeway lane onto an adjacent shoulder, if possible, our Event Response agents are able to remotely move the Waymo AV under strict parameters, including at a very low speed over a very short distance.
I’m not opposed or knocking that they can do this, but they are lying to or misleading people when they say it can’t be done.
This is how it generally behaves, but they are capable of taking direct control in more difficult situations. It’s only very slow maneurvers though, it’s not like they would be driving it down the street. They could move it off the road onto the shoulder though if needed.
Edit: I am trying to find the source, but having problems. It was only ever mentioned in 1 official waymo document that I’ve seen that it was technically possible. My guess is they say their remote helpers can’t / don’t do it because they truly can’t, and it’s some highly restricted type of person who can, who isn’t classified like these other employees. The whole misleading but technical true kinda speak. I’ll keep looking though because I was really surprised to see them admit it when I saw it in an official document.
Found it
In very limited circumstances such as to facilitate movement of the AV out of a freeway lane onto an adjacent shoulder, if possible, our Event Response agents are able to remotely move the Waymo AV under strict parameters, including at a very low speed over a very short distance.
Looks like I was right as well on terminology, it’s not the remote operators that can do it, it’s the “Event Response” team that can.
As far as I know this is the only official acknowledgement it’s possible. Everywhere else they say it isn’t, and this is a footnote in that document.
They just stop moving when that happens. It’s been the cause of many traffic jams.
When they knock something over while staring you down a few moments before they do it.
Well it’s one thing if you don’t want to trust information that comes out on something like Reuters or when Glenn Shotwell said it was entering into profitability, but it’s another to continue to claim something otherwise like Starlink isn’t sustainable and is burning VC money.
At this point, it would be best to either stay out of the conversation, or state something more like an opinion than come across as factual.
Edit: Just as an example in the future you could say something like, “I don’t think Starlink would be sustainable without the current government Starlink contracts”. I don’t believe we have any information that would tell us if that’s the case one way or another yet and could be true. Or "I don’t trust the information available, so I don’t think its actually sustainable or profitable’
Edit: Just to clarify sorry for extra edits - we do know for sure that Starlink is their largest revenue source though, and that retail / business customers make up the majority of their customers. I wouldn’t doubt that the government starlink contracts have much better margins though and can skew profitability into uncertainty without them.
Lets be real here… Factorio probably has more time played than all the others combined right? lol
For sure. I don’t doubt they’ll get it functional and getting payloads to space, but the entire premise is on full rapid reuseability, including same day relaunch of starship. That is still a very very very big if.
If they can’t get to that point, it’s not worth anywhere near what it is being predicted to be worth.
Starlink has been profitable for over a year.
They are burning money trying to get starship working now.
That agreement should have said excluding any acquisitions or mergers.
Salt water is a bitch.
The point of these being in space is there is no maintenance.
Like they aren’t doing maintenance on any starlink satellite.
Government contracts used to be their biggest revenue source, but it’s Starlink now.
They still need the profits from government contracts though to help fund the capital expenditures to try and get starship working, but they aren’t reliant on them like they used to be.
I’m not really convinced SpaceX was over valued IF Starship succeeds, but every single part of xAi was.
The world is made for general purpose humans including vast amounts of factory space. There will always be things for a general purpose robot to do that’ll be cheaper than designing and manufacturing a low volume bespoke robot.
Like Amazon is trying and building robots to do a lot of picking, but they can’t even fully automate that.
It’s more a question of can they solve it (huge if) and even if they do, how many can they actually sell.
If they work, it’s going to be other corporations for factory work.
It’s going to be a long long time before any bot is good enough and cheap enough to be used at the consumer level in our homes.
When I tried a game that had a 120hz mode, I had to lower the quality a little to get it work well, but didn’t notice a big difference, but there was a difference.
A few days later I went back to 60hz so i could increase the graphics quality , and the difference was crazy huge. I had to go back to 120hz.
Did you say you want really clear ads? We got just that!
Looks like I was outdated on the subsidy side.
While that almost 1 billion grant did get cancelled, it looks like they actually did get another grant, but haven’t received the money yet. That’s for $733.5 million to provide subsidized services to 472,000 locations.
It sounds like SpaceX is trying to put requirements on the states though if they accept it, so we’ll see if this goes through or not.
If it does though, this would be the government giving them a lot of money.
From the description it’s really not meant to solve that. In a situation like that they’d have to send someone, but they would be able to get out of the middle of a lane, off to the side, even if that only gives an extra foot or two of space to pass the vehicle.
Edit: And that’s assuming their remote helpers couldn’t direct the car to drive itself out using their other tool where the AI drives itself with their suggestions.