• Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    The goblins were alerted by the bucket, but it was because Gandalf lost his shit that they swarmed. Fool of a Maia!

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    5 days ago

    I’m pretty sure they knew the fellowship was in the mines because the crows (that spied for Sauron) spotted them on the mountain. That’s why they went there to begin with (that and Gandalf didn’t say shit and let clueless Frodo decide).

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      The crows were Saruman’s spies, and Saruman wanted the ring for himself so I doubt he’d communicated that to Sauron via the palantir. Besides, how would Sauron then communicated this to the orcs far away from Mordor?

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      5 days ago

      Gandalf just like me fr fr shoving off a decision on someone else so I don’t have to take responsibility even though I know full well what will happen

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      That was actually super intentional! Gandalf was afraid to wield the ring through another. He felt he could be corrupted but thought that hobbits seemed to show some resistance. So that’s why he, and later aragorn, cede to his decisions. There is also a fair bit of magic/faith involved that they don’t want to f with.

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        As I understand it, the ring amplifies the users power. If everything else in the world works as additive and multiplicative modifiers, the ring is exponential and based on your desires. Wizard is already very powerful and already has a lot of desire for change in the world. Wizard² is going to be a huge number. Man is shown to always be ravinous for power and control man² would be so much more so. Hobbits live an idealistic life with all their needs met. Their biggest desires are a second meal and a neat Firework display. Hobbit² would just be eating the last breadstick before everyone else got one. We see that in Gollum, who was willing to kill for the ring but content to just use it to catch fish in a cave for a century. Exponential power means nothing if your needs are already met.

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          I mean, kind of. The ring does eventually get frodo. He’s unable to cast it in remember. Obviously it’s all a little loose and hand wavy but hobbits aren’t so much immune as resilient. Also we get Sam’s pov while bearing the ring and he gets tempted to try and use it to mass an army or something like that I think

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            That’s exactly what I’m saying, it’s not that it doesn’t tempt hobbits, it’s that the bar of desire for a hobbit is so very low that long term exposure is only going to make them kind of an asshole to have at parties as opposes to a political or existential threat. Sam’s temptation to build an army is just the amplified desire to protect those he loves.

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    5 days ago

    If there’s one thing I’ve learned from DnD it’s that goblins will swarm at the drop of a hat. They love it!

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      Oh ya I bet there where so bored, they might not have even been looking for a fight at first but they have no reason not to fight

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    What do they even get up to when they’re down there for years on end? Agticulture must be very difficult but maybe they can farm moss or something.