TikTok users have been deleting the app at a higher rate since the company announced that its U.S. operations would be housed in a new joint venture.
The short-form video platform’s daily average app uninstalls in the U.S. have increased nearly 150% over the past five days compared with the previous three months, market intelligence firm Sensor Tower told CNBC.
Never downloaded it…
You can’t uninstall that which was never installed.
Right? Didn’t want Chinese propaganda or Chud propaganda. Ezpz
I continue to argue that it was nothing but a Psyop campaign to test how to manipulate the American public by the chinese government. and tI doubt that lingering, baseline purpose has changed at all with the new right wing propagandist owners.
Just look at all those insane “trends” it got people to do, like Kicking in strangers front doors, assaulting people, destroying public property, etc etc.
It turned violent sociopathy into an upvoteable activity.
Cinnamon challenge. Planking. Flash mobs. Harlem shake. Tiktok isn’t responsible or necessary for people to do stupid viral shit
“You’re wrong on your opinion of apples! So heres a list of positives about oranges that totally disproves your comments about apples!”
Ok then.
Happy slapping. Gallon smashing. Salt and ice. Those ones violently stupid enough for you?
Happy slapping was mental, it started happening like the absolute moment we were able to share videos online
Which would sort of prove the point that TikTok isn’t the root of all evil
100% agreed
More enshitification. Whatever the current “administration” touches turns to shit, dies, and rots.
Boycott everything you can that’s from the US. Even if you are IN the fucking US. Nazis are not your friends (and if they are, fuck you, you’re a Nazi too).
Whatever the
current “administration”billionaires touchesturns to shit, dies, and rots.FTFY
the only socially acceptable interaction with a nazi, is punching the nazi.
Hey now that’s not fair.
Shooting Nazis is also acceptable
Up 150% sounds crazy… but like, what’s the rate of installs vs uninstalls here? How has the rate of installs changed?
Yeah if 4 people uninstalled the program last time, and 6 people uninstalled it this time, that’s a 150% increase from last time.
Nope. Your math is wrong. 6 people uninstalling would be a 50% increase from the 4 since 2 (the extra people uninstalling) is 50% of 4. For a 150% INCREASE you’d need 10 to uninstall (4 for the origional, 4 more for the extra 100%, and 2 on top of that for the extra 50%).
4 -> 6 would be a 50% increase, or 150% of the previous number. 4 -> 10 would be a 150% increase, or 250% of the previous number.
at least it won’t be zuccerslop
I just recently deleted my account and uninstalled the app. I’m not going to lie, it was hard because I had finally curated my algo to some pretty decent content that wasn’t just brainrot trash.
But I’d rather be bored than give Oracle anything.
EDIT: Also Loops is neat from a technical standpoint, but it feels like a ghost town coming from TikTok.
A lot of these services really hinge on a tight-knit community of active content producers who fuel engagement and reap some kind of dividend on the back end.
Loops is a technology but it’s not much of a business. The company is literally run by just two guys. They’re not going to bring on prolific content producers without a much more aggressive marketing strategy.
If you are uninstalling, you can try the federated alternative: loops
I downloaded it. It’s very barren right now, no more than a few comments per post, if any. Hopefully it gains some traction
I know it sucks but you’ve just gotta shitpost through it. No comments? Guess you gotta generate some content. We are the algorithm, and we are the bots, here on fedi.
It was like that here when Reddit
fellcaused people to leave and look for something better. Give it time, and interact!It’s still kinda like that here.
I think its mostly because of lurkers, but also, I first joined on midwest.social then something broke the feed and caused a bunch of federation issues. Now this is my “alt” but I can’t see content from piracy@dbzero or whatever now
lemmy.world had blocked and then unblocked a bunch of piracy communities two years ago, that community being one of them
But it looks like lemmy.world is currently not federating that piracy one specifically, maybe I missed another announcement
I can’t see content from piracy@dbzero or whatever now
Does that include comments?
No, I see comments just fine, but the community is blocked
Think of it as an exclusive club where your content has a higher chance of being seen by elite users
Kinda like fediverse in general. That’s the price of a non-corpo platform
I don’t see how few comments is a bad thing? Do you really sit and scroll through the vile idiocy that is tiktok comments? Nowhere does more comments etc. mean it’s better. If anything less people is good.
If anything less people is good.
Maybe get off social media, then
Do you not see the irony in replying to my comment in order to comment that comments are full of vile idiocy?
ive poked around on there over the past year or so. not much to see and often quite broken.
what client do you use? it seems as if it even removed your own default upvote, maybe it’s the thing that is broken
I always un-upvote myself. I tried the latest loops client, it’s way more performant than it used to be. id say the only thing i didnt like about it was the overlap in the feeds and the wrap-around feeds. if it’s out of content, it should just say so.
Cool to see how much loops has grown even just in the last year. It gets more and more viable as an alternative all the time. Love seeing the fediverse continue to grow
It must be really demanding in terms of hardware and network to host video content like tiktok. I wonder if the fediverse voluntaries will be able to keep up with it if the userbase grows too much
Oof, this still isn’t up on F-Droid or either main app store. That’s a shame, I thought this moment would be a great time for Loops to get some user base, but it seems like it’s still not ready for wider adoption.
That said, it does look a lot better now than it did a few months ago when I last tried it. Here’s hoping it picks up some momentum. I finally tried TikTok last year, and was really impressed by the breadth of videos and how quickly it was able to start showing me things I enjoyed. With the recent change in ownership, I don’t know that I’ll revisit it much if at all. Would take quite a lot to replicate even a little bit of the zeitgeist TikTok had going. But like with Lemmy and Mastodon/Bsky, I’m hoping I can do my little part by choosing where to put my attention. Just don’t know that I’m going to find much there I care to see, for now.
I like it 😃
Mildly entertained how fast it went from a bill to give the executive power to designate applications as security threats and ban them to then it being abused. A lot of folks saying the EFF and ACLU were wrong this time and then the EFF and ACLU being right less than 2 years after the bill passing. And it’s not like TikTok has been around all that long. 2021 all the pearl clutching about China’s influence ruining the youth just look at the zoomers entering the workforce - the app was popular for like 2 years at that point. Everyone people were complaining about were raised on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter. Not only that, TikTok was about the only social media platform that leftist were pretty good at compared to right wingers. The ridiculous dichotomy of leftist supporting a bill to ban TikTok while TikTok was core to the lefts grassroots outreach and networking. So now TikTok is right wing owned and Instagram and YouTube are still the same kind of content that people blamed TikTok for and have had for much longer.
That bill in 2024 was a Democratic Party self own especially when the bill wasn’t even TikTok specific. Somehow saw masked plain clothes federal agents kidnapping people in 2020 to pretty much no consequence and decided in 2024, the federal government won’t abuse this bill
Should be higher, save your selves
Facebook, Insta, YouTube. I know they’re fun and entertaining. But they’re all destroying your mental health. I promise you’ll be happier if you pull the plug on all of them. Delete your account. Touch grass. Volunteer, talk to your neighbors, start a social club.
Besides Lemmy, I left everything else in 2014. Growing up with it all and now seeing the other side…… I’m worried about people.
Good. Fuck TikTok.
For anyone looking for new alternatives, I’m sure most Lemmy users can suggest more open-source pubfed options, but for anyone trying to generate a bit more presence (not that there’s much) I did find a YouTube video highlighting some “indie social media” sites, mostly focusing on nostalgia of simpler versions of the historically popular ones.
Having the whole world operate off of publically-owned shared systems is probably an ideal, but having them at least in tight competition, with easy destinations to abandon off to, is still quite a bit better.
While installs are up by how much?
Doesn’t mention installs for tiktok, but does mention that tiktok usage remained flat, but competing apps have seen an increase in downloads.
"However, the increase in uninstalls has not translated into a meaningful drop in U.S. usage.
TikTok’s active user levels in the U.S. have remained relatively flat compared with the previous week, according to Sensor Tower.
Competing apps, however, have seen a bump in interest. Sensor Tower data shows U.S. downloads for UpScrolled increased more than tenfold compared with the prior week, while Skylight Social rose 919% and Chinese-owned Rednote climbed 53% week over week."
I understand TikTok to be the bastion of communication and community for Gen Z.
But so much of the content is uncreative. The same songs and sound effects to some stupid reaction video.
That said, I do hope TikTok crashes and burns so the new owner loses on their bid. And I do really hope Gen Z can collectively find a new platform to communicate on freely because TikTok has been a force for them just as Twitter and Reddit was for Millenials.
The same songs and sound effects to some stupid reaction video.
Dear God. My friend sent me a video about some Japanese person with some cooking method or something that he recommended I should make try. The video he sent me was annoying as fuck. It was a couple screaming at each other: “OMG IS THAT THE NEW JAPANESE ____ METHOD?” “YES I THINK I’VE HEARD OF THAT” interspersed with the actual narration-free video. Had to stop it after 4-6 seconds.
I asked my friend how he could even stand watching it the video and he said his brain filters it out. I don’t know why it just repulsed me so much.
There’s also many videos with some person just playing another’s person’s video and they just point a finger upward to the actual playing video with some useless look on their face and the nodding.
I think this is the nature of these TikTok videos but I’m not really on TikTok much, I just get them sent to me every once in a while.
I do hope TikTok crashes and burns so the new owner loses on their bid.
They bought it to control the narrative on important topics so a loss isn’t a big deal to them. You apparently already can’t talk about Epstein and anti-ICE stuff gets hidden.
But so much of the content is uncreative.
Enshittification, baby. Once people know where the feed bar is, they just keep slapping it until pellets stop falling out. The Algorithm rewards imitation, not invention.
I’m also fairly sure that Gen Z has been moving on for a while now.
But so much of the content is uncreative. The same songs and sound effects to some stupid reaction video.
How is that different from most social media platforms, though? Have tried browsing an uncurated YouTube recently? If there’s any incentive to boost views and engagement, people will optimize for that.
Ok, but what are the counts for uninstalls generally? 150% sounds like a lot, but if it’s only a thousand uninstalls a week then it’s only jumped to 1,500 uninstalls. When there are millions of users, that’s…not very much.
I’m not arguing against progress. I’m just saying they are making it sound like this big exodus when it might be minimal in reality.
If they’re up 150% and it was 1000 before, it’d now be 2500. Your point still stands, of course.
Yes, you’re correct. Math is difficult and I forgot to add the 100% on top of the original number. Thank you!
I am classically conditioned to hate autoplay videos from the era of auto play ads on websites.
That era is still alive and well, unfortunately. I had to use a browser without an adblocker the other day and I’m pretty sure it gave me PTSD.
It still happens on fucking lemmy of all places. Looking at that stupid cbsnews url with revulsion…
