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It’s always morally correct to beat the shit out of Nazis. And if they don’t like that, they can always stop being Nazis.
The cure for fascism is… politically-motivated threats of brutal physical violence? That’s literally fascism.
Hate this. This is not fascism. It’s arguably not even one of the tenets of fascism. That user has no clue what they’re talking about.
The reply under it was pretty good though.
I love when people say violence against fascism is fascism… how dumb are you?
They’re the orange cat of people, malicious, disruptive, destructive, and only have a community brain cell to share around them.
Only the intolerant are tolerant of intolerance.
Even if we could “vote out” MAGA, if our response is as passive and non-disruptive as we have been, we’ve effectively legitimized big business’ strategy here. The oligarchs don’t care who is in power. If they can get massive tax cuts from one Nazi term every 16 years, they will back those Nazis once every 16 years – If the people rioted and destroyed their businesses during Nazi/gilded regimes, the big business CEOs would rethink that strategy.
The point of an uprising now isn’t just about stopping the current fascists – it’s about sending a clear message that the USAmerican people will not tolerate fascism. In business terms: Fascism is not profitable, regardless of what financial policy is on the table. This was the unspoken societal assumption throughout our nation’s history, but bit by bit the line has been tested, and the bar has been lowered.
The War on Drugs’ intrusions in our personal lives; The War on Crime’s mass imprisonment of US residents; The economic pressures of Trickle-down policy; The War on Terror’s normalization of mass-surveillance; ICE detentions, assaults, and human trafficking – Each step is built upon the last. Each step begets the next intrusion of our quality of life.
When we go on working and consuming, keeping this system running; we normalize all the injustices that have occurred up to this point. Year by year, we give all politicians, oligarchs, and corporations less of a reason to fear us. Every time we boast about non-violence, we further push the narrative that the people will take whatever you give them.
We deserve the treatment we allow.
The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi
Serious question though, there are now literal Nazis, dressed up and all, parading the streets of US cities. What would one risk just shooting them?
“Nazis were back your honour, what else could I do?”
I’m not advocating for this, but as a pessimist I think we are never getting these people back to reason, and they grow in numbers, and they are armed. If parading as Nazis is not seen as having crossed the red line, where does this all go? If there is only self-defense if they attack as a legitimate reason to shoot them, are we doomed to see them grow in numbers till self-defense becomes fucking impossible? Hence my question, if the first bunch of neonazis were just shot, there might have been less of them now, but what would have happened to those that shot them? Prison? Hero? Is there a jurisprudence? I haven’t heard the news of a ‘reverse’ Kyle Rittenhouse
A murder is a murder, legally speaking.
Tbh, the big issue with why nazis exist in these large quantities is that the financial situation of people is going down. That’s the one big thing there. And left-wing parties mostly all over the world did nothing against that.
The rich, the billionaires and all that lot are siphoning wealth off the rest of the world and nobody does anything against that. Instead, left-wing parties got entangled in social justice topics (which are important) but completely forgot left economics (which are critical). Left-wing discussion moved from important but rather boring topics (e.g. how to distribute wealth better) to extremely polarizing but not that critical-to-daily-life topics (e.g. “This politician used a word wrong!”).
That was basically the whole 2000s and the first half of the 2010s.
In the 1990s, nazis were hardly a thing because people had jobs, housing and food. That’s changed now. And since the left-wing parties aren’t about to change anything, people are flocking to right-wing parties and -ideologies because they are literally to dumb to understand that the change that right-wing is going to effect is change against the people.
But if we actually wanted to stop nazis, we would have to abolish billionaires (and pretty much anyone who has more than >50 million) and redistribute wealth. We need a new new deal. Because what killed the nazis wasn’t WW2, but new deal economics.
“Left-wing” parties intentionally started focusing on ultimately meaningless topics so they didn’t have to admit that they were in the same pockets as the other side.
And right-wing parties did the same to distract idiot voters from what they are actually doing.
we defeated fascism in WW2
:3
And we’ll do it again!
Still need to do it constantly.
I was a lot more cool will “beat down nazis” when I thought everyone knew “nazi” meant “fans of Adolf Hitler, the Third Reich, and their racist political philosophy and policy programs”, but I feel like I see way too many people using them term as a generic insult or a label for “anyone to the right of Stalin”.
And I’m frustrated by that because I’m in the USA and the government is out of control. Oh and baseball bats won’t solve it.
If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck…
Yeah the first point was about the inability to sort and identify.
Language is not prescriptivist, it evolves and changes and so do the definitions and contexts of words based on how they are used. Your whole point is outdated and detached from the concept of how language works and is applied.
Nazi cunts can fuck off.
Actually my point is firmly anchored to the reality of linguistic descriptivism. Insofar as I’ve seen a wide range of ideologies and people with diverse views called nazis (by equally diverse people), whose views don’t mesh with my prior understanding of the term as I mentioned above, I actually hesitate to nod along with generic calls to beat up nazis.
Like to put it less plainly, neo-Nazis are nazis, skinheads are nazis, advocates for White Nationalism are nazis, KKK are nazis, but who else does the speaker mean? Like I literally don’t know.
Stop defending nazis, you fucking putz.
I’m not defending nazis you illiterate toad.
You are, though, and you’re being an annoying pedant.
Reality check.
We aren’t voting our way out of this. That shipped sailed in 2024.
When the orange rapist dies, all the fascists still exist. They’ll still need to be dealt with.
Idk the majority of people who voted DID vote for Trump, and generally people like Bernie just didn’t get votes because Americans are propagandized against “”“socialism”“”. I guess the DNC basically refuses to give us a good candidate though but I’m not sure how to solve that.
And the Cheeto got less votes than he did the first time around. People are fed up with the system on both sides it seems.
I would say nazism as an ideology was not defeated (yeah i know it still exists, thats not the point) by fighting. It was a long process of re-education after the war. The nazis did not woke up the next day and said: “we lost, i guess the jews are ok now”
I would say there are more Nazis now then there were in WW2, they just don’t wear those uniforms, which were the best thing about the Nazis. So weird.
