Oh boy, a post tangentially related to vegans. Who else is ready for a very sane and normal comment sectiiioooonnn!?!?!?
Op: Makes post about PETA
Godric: OH GOD I HAVE TO BE OFFENDED ABOUT VEGANS
everyone else: Who the fuck said anything about Vegans?!
I assumed Godric was anticipating “very normal” anti-vegan comments XD
Vegans will have history side with them. However, farming and pastoralism is a way of life for many people. It’s a job passed down from generation to generation. It’s one of the world’s oldest job. Unlike fossil fuels where there is no sentimental attachment and we can tell people to reskill, farming isn’t. Some cultures and communities centre their identity to farming and pastoralism. How do we convince farmers and herders to give up the practice because it is extremely damaging not just to the environment, but to the entire human species?
Even though farmers do worry about the climate change making seasons becoming less predictable and yields becoming less productive, they are also the same people who complain and felt hindered by climate change policies, so they vote for the right wing parties that provide easy answer band aid solutions, but have far more dire and longer term consequences.
The problem is capitalism Fuck meat industry
Blame capitalism as much as we want, but in this case it isn’t some nebulous boogeyman. Who are the people supporting capitalism? Who are the people selling meat to the meat industry? The same people who I am talking about. There is naïveté that farmers don’t have a hand in exacerbating climate change. Holistically, we are all to blame.
“Name one cow you’re friends with” is such as asshole response to an industry that sometimes treats animals worse than Nazi concentration camps.
I’ve been seeing vegan defenders get upvoted in recent time on lemmy, did something change? I remember vegans getting quite negative feedback a few months ago only
The way you ask this makes me think you are a troll that wants to pick a fight.
Just in case you are not a troll: “vegan defenders” and “vegans” are no homogenous groups. There are a lot of different individuals that are vegan. And they do this for a bunch of different reasons.
Also your “vegan defenders”: Defending against what? This implies that there are people who think veganism should be eradicated. This would be an extremly stupid opinion to have. You don’t have to be vegan yourself but at least let other people live their life.
I honestly was being a bit of an ass for no reason, I do apologise. I’m a vegan myself, but only converted a few months ago. I’m just now depressed when I see how negatively people comment on anything vegan online, and spread misinfo frequently. Also I should’ve said “vegan-ism defenders”
People get paid a salary by meat/dairy industries to go online and astroturf against veganism. Its just part of being vegan online
I don’t know about online, but in my day to day life most people who talk shit about vegans are exactly the sort of people you’d imagine; edgelords who think masculinity is congruent with being a dick.
FWIW I’ve come across multiple “PETA is the punchline” memes on Lemmy over the past few days, after having seen none that I remember. Not to jump to conclusions or claim conspiracy but I had already noted it to myself earlier today. I concur, the way some people approach the subject can be very depressing.
Idk probably just a lot of the damage that has been done by anti-PETA propaganda. Those people are probably real people seeing PETA being brought up again and remembering “oh yeah, here’s people we can all unanimously shit on!” Because PETA was always a joke even in most progressive circles.
I’m not saying there isn’t a conspiracy, but just that it seems more likely that when one person posts about something that a lot of people can have a negative opinion on and they feel comfortable sharing it? They’ll take the opportunity to do so.
PETA euthanizes thousands of animals per year.
Your comment is just trying to cause trouble. There is no extra context. Find something better to do dude. Insinuating that PETA is bad like the animal farming industry is just sad and pathetic.
PETA euthanizes animals because there are simply too many to house and feed. At least they offer a relatively painless death, compared to other methods commonly employed.
https://www.peta.org/news/euthanasia/PETA euthanizes animals because there are simply too many to house and feed.
PETA euthanizes well taken care of pets that it steals from owners.
I don’t think this is real, mostly because I don’t think PETA has a sense of humor. I don’t think they’re capable of funny.
I would more expect PETA to unironically tell someone off for calling a person a type of animal as an insult.
as they should
Yeah that’s real iguana behavior.
Woah, PETA, people are animals too! You shouldn’t be roasting them XD
“I grew up where food comes from the store” starterpack
I’ll make that a post give me a sec
Hahah as if peta has friends.
TBF most animals are much nicer than humans.
Humans are literally animals. Most are nothing more than that.
Most animals are insects =)
(About 10 quintillion, apparently: https://www.si.edu/spotlight/buginfo/bugnos )
most animals are much nicer than humans.
Man-eating animals are NOT nicer than humans.
I, for one, think it’s great that PETA is branching out and disappointing somebody else’s parents for a change.
I stopped eating almost any beef after discovering the cute cow gifs subreddit. They can be so puppy like! They’re also huge methane machines and having fewer cows would be good for the environment.
On the other hand, I crave a good pot roast maybe once a year.
Edit: and I can name my mother’s favorite childhood cow and the cow my grandpa let me name because we shared a birthday.
Cows when young are absolutely puppy like. We had a pet calf when I was a kid named Softy. My stepmom insisted we buy him and bring him home when we visited a rural county fair because he was so cute. He ended up thinking that he was one of our dogs for a while, even played fetch (poorly heh). Once he got big (and admittedly mean as hell), someone ended up stealing him from his pasture while we were away for the day. Poor Softy.
I unfortunately like beef too much. But I know the impact the meat industry has and try to reduce my intake. I was down to two meals with meat a month before I got a job that wouldn’t let me be picky.
Maybe we should have a specific holiday like Thanksgiving but for cows. I vote for St Patrick’s Day. Beyond meat and black beans are cool and good but you can pry corned beef out of my cold dead fingers.
We should eat snakes on St. Patricks.
Hitting a disingenuous reply guy with a lazy zinger: Based
Hitting a disingenuous reply guy with a lazy zinger when you’re an animal rights org: Cringe, loathsome, objectionableIf this is real… I really don’t see how this guy thought this quip would work out. Even without the funny Mum joke, they could have just responded with any name.
They respond “Daisy” what’s he going say now? How’s he going to disprove that?
that kind of attitude just proves that animals are just the facade for them
Gentle reminder that the intellectual distance between an average human and a cow is smaller than it is between the average human and anyone who isn’t a total fucking idiot.
Nonsense. There’s incontrovertible evidence that 2.4 million years ago, the non-human creatures on our family tree were already smarter than any non-human animal roaming the earth today.
The fact that you think this has any bearing on what I said underscores my point.
The world is just one tandoori soya chaap away from turning vegetarian forever. Remember that.
Cow hugging therapy exists actually.
Not surprised Peta would stoop to bodyshaming women.
