The headline is a bit misleading is it not? There is no evidence of children’s data being used unlawfully. (I mean there might I don’t know what counts as “unlawful”) This is just a fine for Reddit not to follow UKs dystopian ideas in time.
They were relying on users to click I am definitely over 18. So there is by definition no possible way to know if children’s data was being misused except to the extent it obviously was.
Age verification should have been a device side thing. I should be able to set up my kids phone / tablet with their date of birth and if they’re not old enough then they can’t access certain content. That way the only person who needs to verify the age of someone is me.
My ISP shipped with age restriction on by default, (personally I think that’s a stupid default but that’s a separate issue), but although annoying it was easy to get rid of because I’m the account holder. I didn’t have to scan my ID though.
Anyway we all know this has been nothing to do with kids anyway.
This is about GDPR. A German court recently made a similar judgment wrt TikTok, but that is being appealed.
They perma banned me :( bunch of power tripping people over there
Who, the government Reddit
This headline is about them not complying with age verification, which is something I’d agree with. Fuck reddit overall but not their fault in this regard
Spez is such a colossal Zuckerberg-wannabe piece of shit. I don’t think any site has fallen farther than Reddit has. What a waste.
*farther
A silly noble once said,
“If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class.”
Business criminals need to be barred from business, and criminal profits returned to the public.
Really waiting for the mass exodus from reddit. It seems like it’s gotten pretty shitty over there the past year or so.
aswell as Youtube,Discord and Twitch
it kinda sucks tho that all my google searches for tech support I have to put site:reddit.com at the end because the rest of the web is shit for support
You can thank walled gardens like Discord for that.
software projects run by gamerz: hosted on discord
also software projects run by gamerz: why is the support channel the same 3 questions over and over again!?
idk, maybe it’s that you host your software support on a platform without discoverability of solutions?
aT lEaSt It’S nOt A fOrUm
As much as I hate Reddit this is just continuation of the UK government steamrolling and destroying the free Internet, ruining the adult experience.
One of the wonders of the Internet was that it was wildly unregulated - if you wanted it and you could disable safesearch you could get it, with the caveat of ISP-enforced content locks on all mobile data subscriptions under the name of a legal child (under 18), workplace and school security and filters, unremovable Safesearch on most search engines etc. Broadband required an adult, who in turn could activate parental controls. I couldnt wait until I turned 18 so I could finally access many sites for porn, news, gaming, forums and anything containing keywords without being blocked. I had a list of proxies for bypassing school filters.
In short there is significant existing protection in place and we know that this is simply more evidence of Orwellian enforcement.
So, the Cyberpolice were never real? 😯
The unregulated internet had literal child porn sites that were available to anyone.
I don’t disagree with some of your points but the “wild West” internet shouldn’t exist in society.
And how the fuck, exactly, are their new laws preventing CP sites from existing?
“There” are all sorts of laws regarding it.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with their in that context.
Well yes, the more CSAM detection and predator hunting, the better. Task forces and, dare I say it, detection programs with algorithms that may or may not include AI learning, are invaluable to eliminating the actually terrible stuff, anything that can’t even be educational.
I believe the Online Safety Act and Chat Control’s sections that tie every user’s real identity to their online actions is not a solution, because when that data gets leaked and/or abused many innocent lives are in danger. I trust the state very little. I trust unidentified malicious hackers even less.
Leaked data doesn’t even need to be dangerous to life. I, like many others, don’t have “nothing to hide”, but I don’t still want my real name next to a list of content I’ve watched from streaming sites. Also I don’t really want my identity tied to this pseudonym, or any other accounts on any platform. There’s a crapload of problems and it would be a heaven for scammers if there was no way to stay at least relatively anonymous around the net.
okay so, first, were the CSAM websites illegal then? is the issue you see one of enforcement, not how the laws are written?
Yes, it has been illegal for quite some time. I’m guessing you are on the younger side?
I’m the 90s clicking a link, even one with a legit looking url, could be a rather risky proposition. On slashdot and the like many of us would deliberately avoid many random links unless someone else commented about it first.
I don’t know i’m gonna have to go in for a closer look
aw damn ya got me
dude i used usenet. goatseing folks happened early 2000s
Strange. I would have figured you would have known what was going on then.
the text only music forums i was on in the 90s strangely didn’t have any problems with csam. it’s all where you congregate.
To be honest it probably did. There’s a whole army of broken heroes behind every social media site whose job it is to block and remove that kind of content. If you didn’t see anything, thank the admins.
The problem with the kinds of people who are into that kind of stuff is that they want to shove it under your nose to make you uncomfortable.
Lol, you don’t understand the internet, good person, but you are the physical embodiment of its current base.
Step 1: Call fraud on a legitimate claim from someone who was there at the time.
Step 2: Boast about your long, prolific history on the Internet to establish your credentials.
Step 3: Double back because you stayed an a strangely singular lane, and as @paul points out, still avoiding getting it.
Keep on keeping on, I guess.
Oh I’m sorry, which government demanded age checks which made kids give away their data to check their ages? Oh yeah.
Cost of doing business to them. Make fines actually hurt and then maybe something will change.
Or just prosecute them criminally, like they do with the pesants
Because of content. I still can’t find woodworking, amarthome, soccer or F1 content or lemmy, just to name a few. I lurk in incognito mode on reddit for that, so the ads don’t have any data about me.
/u/Spez (creator of /r/jailbait) should be in the car next to Andrew and on the gallows next to Trumpstein.
It was created by Violentacrez, not spez.
Prior to late 2012, it was possible to make someone a moderator of a subreddit without their consent, which was sometimes done as a joke or harassment. That’s why spez was briefly a moderator of r/jailbait.
Fair point! But he still created a website that allowed that kind of content and is a POS human that deserves what he gets.
I must also point out that he did not work at Reddit between 2009 and 2015.
I’m not going to try to talk you out of hating spez, but maybe try hating him for something he actually did.
Not sure what that timeframe has to do with anything. I hate him for his role in reddit.
reddit was created in 2005, so (and please forgive the rounding errors i do not like mathing before coffee OH CRAP) spez worked there for four years, then took six years off, then worked there again? whatever that means.
I know that. Not sure why you guys think that’s relevant. He still created reddit and manages it now.
Not sure what that timeframe has to do with anything
i was answering your question, sorry.
I’m not defending the guy but wasn’t it that a mod of that subreddit added him as a mod as a joke? I don’t think spez created it.
I believe op unless you have proof.
It was always the version of events that I’ve read.
I just did a quick search and found this, a video claiming that he was a mod, but the majority of comments indicate it’s not true and that it was debunked.
Spez actually owns site where majority of comments stick up for said owner? Sorry man, that ain’t proof. Wtf are you sticking up for spez anyway? I don’t know anyone sane that would.
He was a mod for a while, but not the top mod. Top mod is the creator, unless the creator quits, passing it off to second mod. And he was mod at a time when anyone could be added as a mod without their consent. No need to accept an invite.
It’s bad enough that he was happy to let the subreddit exist for as long as it did even after significant on-site pressure to remove it. The same thing he did half a decade later with the_Donald. The fact that it took mainstream media criticism to be willing to take it down should be scathing enough. We don’t need to make up bs.
Hoffman was a founder of Reddit, he was a part of the very creation of the site. He also had absolute and unlimited access to every bit of data that reddit ever had or created. He was also well known for editing other people’s comments for his own amusement and narcissism. He not only could have easily been the creator, but he could have been the very mod who made his other account “a mod as a joke”. He definitely could have removed himself as a mod of jb just as easily as any of the other well known edits he did to Reddit. And he definitely had direct and unfettered access to every single photo that was ever uploaded or linked to Reddit, even the ones that were so illegal that even the jailbait mods took them down.
So, the other guys opinion that Hoffman was the head pedo and creator of jailbait is just as valid and verifiable as your opinion that it was a joke that he nothing to do with it.Hoffman was the head pedo and creator of jailbait is just as valid
No, it is not.
your opinion that it was a joke that he nothing to do with it
Not the opinion I expressed.
Well where’s the proof that he created it? I’ll happily stand corrected.
I just think that if we’re going to attack someone, it’s probably a good idea to use facts that are true and not made up (it’s likely that op just misremembered the details) otherwise it just puts doubt on any further valid points. I’ve no interest in defending the guy but I do think we should try and keep our facts straight when we criticise someone.
I just think that if we’re going to attack someone, it’s probably a good idea to use facts that are true and not made up
Err … sir. Do you understand how the internet works? “Facts”? “Truth”? “Not made up”? These are not things a shit poster craves.
The burden of proof is on the accusor
Ironically, Huffman doesn’t seem to be in the Epstein files. This isn’t because he isn’t a pedophile-- he very likely is-- but he simply wasn’t important enough of a person for them to invite him or even talk about him.
4chan had approximately 10x the users as reddit did in 2011 when Epstein and Poole connected.
But ya fuck u/spez. Even the biggest losers on earth hate u/spez
/u/Spez (creator of /r/jailbait)
oh 🫣 I’ve probably heard that before but I must not have committed it to memory
Well that explains why Reddit was so ridiculously pro-porn and porn-riddled in general.
That’s cos it’s not true. He was a mod of it for a while, but I’ve not seen any verification of how long that was, and it was at a time when you could just add someone as a mod without them needing to approve it. But he was definitely not its founder.
He did allow it to stick around until the mainstream media started kicking up a fuss about it. That would be bad enough. We don’t need to make shit up.
I stopped. Kind got forced to but I’m happier for it lol
Garbage fine by tyrannical government trying to police what you do online. Stop age verification!
This will surely stop reddit in it’s tracks!
Cheering on websites getting fined for the reason of internet censorship. I know Spez is a prick but I don’t want the UK cracking down on internet privacy.
We must protest against the labour party’s corruption.
Better go buy some reddit gold to help them pay their fine!
If your accound is permabanned, can you even buy any Reddit Gold?
Probably, no clue though
