cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/55094518

“The UK government wants technology companies to block explicit images on phones and computers by default to protect children, with adults having to verify their age to create and access such content,” the FT report said. “Ministers want the likes of Apple and Google to incorporate nudity-detection algorithms into their device operating systems to prevent users taking photos or sharing images of genitalia unless they are verified as adults.”

  • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    25 days ago

    OMG. These plans are getting on my nerves.

    When a parent gives a kid their device and sets the child’s birthday, then enable these. If the birthday is over 18, the let them do what they want.

    Let parents parent the kid and get the government out of my life.

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        25 days ago

        Worse is that it likely won’t be able to distinguish between intentionally titilating material and material intended to educate. Only over 18 are allowed to learn about human physiology after submitting identifying information.

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          Children generally aren’t that interested in nudity and most don’t understand porn, just that it’s something shocking

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              worst thing for sexuality the UK ever did was let the protestants flee to the US instead of executing them (which they had no trouble doing with so many other “undesirables”), now their braindead dogma is spreading back across the pond

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      It’s kind of unfortunate how much this has been encouraged by petty online fights. People were very excited when “will somebody think of the children” was applied to, say, some social media content or gaming loot boxes because the Internet did not like those things, so they were very happy to ignore the pre-existing parental control devices and request blanket bans. Then people remembered that a bunch of old, prudish people on both sides of the political aisle don’t like porn and it was too late.

      Man, people love the “they first came for” argument online and I should have guessed the first time it really pays off in the 21st century it’d include the absolute most depressing things possible instead.

      Anyway, this is bad and I don’t like it, but UK politics are almost as bad as US politics, so I’m happy to let both stew in their own cautionary tale juices.

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      That seems the most sensible way of doing things. Apple probably doesn’t want that outcome though because then they’ll be liable for the implementation rather than, for example, the social networks or websites.

      Always gotta be thinking about the Apple shareholders.

      • thejml@sh.itjust.works
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        Honestly, No. I don’t want my phone making decisions for me or my kids. If its site by site, they can just go somewhere else.

        As a parent, I’m far more worried about shitty social media algorithms that push narratives and online bullying and misinformation than I am about nudity. People have bodies, sex happens, it’s normal, whatever. I’d rather my kid learned about all that instead of being sheltered away from it until they turned 18.

        If anything, normalizing nudity and acceptance of different body types is probably a good thing for kids to learn, especially females where a constant narrative of “skinny, pretty, perfect” is being shoved on them and shaming them for not being a super model is considered the status quo.

        Let me make that decision as a parent, don’t try to protect my kids for me.

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    As the dad of a teenager, I am “encouraging” him to put nudity blocking systems on his phone.

    oh shit would you look at that i just taught him how to go around me and hide his behavior better im sure there will be no future consequences whatsoever

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      The important thing isn’t that your kids don’t see porn, it’s that they feel the requisite amount of shame and never talk to you about their sexuality.

      Also, it’s one more thing we can criminalize in a surveillance state. So now we can more easily extort horny people with fines and prison if we feel the need

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    Even if you’re morally opposed to the various things this addresses, it is so immensely concerning and unwise to want a corporation to have this much control over your actions, daily life, and liberty.

    I don’t think enough people talk about that.

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      This has been very obvious to a lot of people since mobile devices were originally invented. The notion that you are sold a product that you “own” but is still 100% controlled by the vendor - anyone who thought about it for more than a second knew that it would eventually come to this. Of course, nobody gave even that tiny amount of thought about it. Or they were too naïve to think that a corporation could ever be evil.

      I miss the times when spyware was considered uncoool. Mobile devices are the undoubtedly the worst invention of the information age. (And social media is probably the second worst.)

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        I get that, but I don’t even mean it in that sense. A corporation should not have any control over what I do whatsoever unless I’m their employee.

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          And even if you are an employee, only in work related stuff and during business hours, the rest, get out of my life.

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        The only time a corporation should care, is when they are in the business of selling sex toys. Then it should only be in so far that you enjoy using their products and want to use them more.

        Corporations should be pro sex or absolutely ambivalent. There’s zero reason for them to be against it.

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      It’s not about nudity. It’s about control. The government wants full control over your computer and mobile phones.

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    Ahhhhhh just fuck off you useless cunts! Why don’t you fix the fact that we’ve got kids fucking starving in this country before worrying about if they’ve seen tits before they’re 18?!

    It’s dumb shit like this that is really pushing me to KMS once my mother has passed on. I can’t stand sharing oxygen with these morons.

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        Look I’m just fed up with dealing with the slow burning of everything around me all because about a dozen people want extra zeros on their net worth and are tempting politicians to implement draconian laws with comparitivly miniscule bribes and I am obligated to spend 1/3 of my life and 2/3rds of my income satiating the desires of these bastards.

        Fuck em. I’m done. I want peace, permanent peace.

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    In the end it isn’t about the kids , what they want is control and tracking of everyone.

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    Client side scanning, it’s already happening in android running google services there are two apps automatically installed which at least I know scan photos in the device. One is android system saftycore and the other I can’t remember the name.

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      Thanks for the info. Didn’t know that shit was on my phone. Deleted.

      If you happen to remember the second app name, please post it.

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        The other one is Android System Key Verifier, for that I’m not totally sure it’s malware but as it have access to your end to end encrypted keys and the way it’s secretly installed seems shady to me. Looks like a way for Google to intercept end to end encrypted messages for me.