Guns really do have more rights than people.
Like the venerable Kirk said, some deaths are worth our right to bear arms. Arm up and get ready, y’all, fascism doesn’t go quietly.
This machine kills fascists.
Open carry guitar ban incoming
I always find it interesting how they talk about history and tradition in these rulings as if bans on open carries haven’t been around since the 1800s.
I’m a gun person and even I’m taken aback when I see someone open carrying. I don’t carry, open or concealed, for a myriad of reasons. Mainly I’m gigantic and trained to fight, but also I’m not a fucking paranoid nut case. The only exception is when I go hiking or camping. Never needed it and hope I never do.
But then you hear idiots talk about "I wish a mfer would give me a reason!"and I realize I’m in the pretty small minority.
But then you hear idiots talk about "I wish a mfer would give me a reason!"and I realize I’m in the pretty small minority
They always say that and yet when there’s a shooting they’re never around to stop them.
They’re addicted to the idea of using violence and being a hero for it.
They always say that and yet when there’s a shooting, there’s never anyone around to stop them.
Ftfy
Ikr! I consider people who want to shoot other people complete cowards.
Sack of hammers looking for a nail. They’re cowards steeped in fear. Always subscribing to that hyper-readiness doctrine spread by self-defense wingnuts that have you looking out for “bad guys” everywhere you go. Because you never know. They could win the “I defended myself” lottery when some rando argues with them on the street over a public parking spot they wanted, gets in their face and out comes the gun. Because you never know, he might have gotten violent.
It’s hard to imagine the remorse one would be forced to carry after willingly shooting another human being.
Even killer cops have a first murder, which must either break them or drive them deeper into abuse.
It seems horrifying to me.
They’re all Rittenhouse-ers. Deliberately not avoiding or walking away from escalating situations. Then they get the support from their “I woulda shot the fucker, too” network of gun nut pals.
Well the California one is from the 60’s and was a direct reprisal to the Black Panthers. I think most historical carry bans applied to concealed carry. The only historical carry ban I can think of was some small “Wild West” towns would make you check your guns when you rolled in, but I’m not sure if that applied to folks that lived there.
hey talk about history and tradition in these rulings
Then restrict permits to muzzle loaders only.
I feel uneasy looking at our police openly carrying guns. I don’t know how Americans look at the average Joe and say, “I trust he’s going to keep that in its holster unlike the one who didn’t two days ago.” 🥴
We typically don’t. Someone exercising open carry in public (especially in a non-rural town/city) are generally viewed as a cosplaytriot who has totally confused being a prepared badass with being a paranoid dickhead.
They may argue this, but that’s the general attitude.
Agreed. I even live in a rather conservative area and it’s extremely rare to see someone open carrying.
could not stand under the Supreme Court’s 2022 landmark gun rights ruling
So any future gun deaths in California are officially SCOTUS’ fault for enabling this.
Pretty much. After they gutted the first half of the amendment, it was only the right to “keep & bear,” and open carry is simply “bearing arms.”
No. Not specifically SCOTUS. This has been a team effort. Conservatives have been working on this for decades. SCOTUS is just the final step. The blood will be on the hands of all republicans whose votes allowed this to happen.
Democrats aren’t completely blameless either. This was a group effort, and a rare bipartisan move by both parties.
I mean Obama expanded gun rights during his presidency, specifically lifting restrictions for Amtrak and national parks.
Yes, but the occasional support for gun rights among democrats is nothing like the monolithic support for it from the GOP. Pointing out this failing on Obama’s part is like pointing out a rain drop falling in the ocean.
You seriously think banning open carry is going to stop someone from shooting people?
Oh boi …
How many mass shootings do you hear about in Europe?
That has less (or nothing) to do with open carry and more to do with tighter gun laws in general.
Tighter gun laws is the exact opposite of open carry.
Yes, but your original comment is acting like not having open carry is the reason why shootings are less in Europe when its the tighter gun laws in general that prevents shooting incidents.
Last I checked the U.S. isn’t Europe and pretty far from it.
The number of people who commit shootings often do so with illegal firearms or otherwise violating some firearms laws.
Banning open carry is not the solution. It may be part of a solution but it would not be sufficient.
It may be part of a solution but it would not be sufficient.
Being part of the solution is one step towards a complete solution and certainly better than doing nothing at all.
Being part of the solution is one step towards a complete solution and certainly better than doing nothing at all.
Sometimes… Government is awash in unintended consequences for passing shitty “won’t somebody think of the children” type laws.
As much of a win as this is, I wish they’d show half as much support for the rest of the rights we’re guaranteed by the Constitution.
The new rule is everything has to be consistent with the nations “history and tradition” so they’re probably just gonna roll all those back 😬
Lol get fucked Reagan. Aight let’s create some black and white panther cells again and stick em in the capitol.
I’m down for Panthers, just without segregation.
That Bruen case was absolute nonsense. They argued that if no regulations on guns existed in a certain arbitrary time period, that it is unconstitutional to ever have a gun regulation. And then they got the history totally wrong. There were plenty examples of regulations on stuff like open carry. So they got the facts totally wrong!
Even in the Wild West, you were supposed to check your guns when you entered town.
What, you expect good faith from those scheming assholes?
They’re charlatans who pretend to channel the dead Founders. Except (A) The founders didn’t agree on much; (B) Many of them spoke at length about the need to keep laws updated to meet modern needs; and © The conclusions reached by this bullshit process of divination are always exactly in line with the demands of modern conservative politics, and have little to do with the original intent, to the extent that such a thing can ever have been said to exist.
What a coincidence.
California should just change the population from 200k to 100k and pass the law again. Keep doing it and appeal. If trump can jam up the courts with bullshit the state can too.
199k
Just change the population from 200k to 100k
…By shooting them?
did you read the article at all?
Yes… Did you not understand the joke based on your ambiguous phrasing?
haha no but its like they say the best jokes are ones you have to explain.
I went shooting once with some friends. It wasea pretty good experience but I have zero desire to ever own a gun. I don’t understand these people who want to open carrry.
I own a gun and I’m afraid to open carry because of the liability. A gun weighs so much more when you’re around people you don’t know. You don’t ever not feel it on your hip. And I think that’s a good thing. You should feel that weight. Because it’s a responsibility.
I think you’re confusing what you felt, with what people in general feel. Unfortunately, I think there is a significant number of Americans that open carry, and feel nothing of the sort.
They feel the weight in their crotch, not in their holster.
Yeah I can imagine. It was stressfull just holding and shooting the guns at the range. I agree having one out and about should be everpresent in your mind.
California is where this battle started. It took a hefty dose of racism to get gun control passed their. F*** Reagan!
reagan also railed against sagaftra and secured his own agreement, at the expense of the other actors.
Remember fire arms are for the rich and if you try to have them debate a gov program to give everyone a fire arm to embrace their 2nd amendment right they will back track real quick. Every time a pour community is given fire arms you will hear the right ask for gun regulations faster then ever.
Fuck this, fuck all of this. I grew up with guns as a kid, and this is just nonsense. I don’t own guns as an adult, and none of this makes sense. The United States had more guns per capita than any other nation, and we have more mass shootings than any other nation. In this case, causation is correlation.
Slight point: Isn’t causation correlative? I think you mean that in this case correlation is causation.
Except it’s not and never is. You have to prove causation.
I’d rather know that someone has a gun on them, I’d rather them ban concealed carry. Guns generally give me the heebie-jeebies, I prefer to know who to avoid in public situations and make sure to keep out of my life.
Hmm, only took 25 years to get to this point.
At least if they’re open carrying, you know who to avoid and keep an eye on? Also, they can be denied service at businesses, and should be.
