Tech billionaires are making plans to bail on California ahead a possible ballot measure that would tax their assets to help pay for healthcare.

Sources told the New York Times that venture capitalist Peter Thiel has explored spending more time outside California and opening an office for his Los Angeles-based personal investment firm, Thiel Capital, in another state.

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    If they weren’t paying taxes in the first place, their departure only improves the environment.

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    they should pass a law that requires you to pay a 400m exit fee for filing a change of address if your name is peter thiel or larry page, per person, for each member of the extended family

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      It doesn’t even matter, they are rich enough to own mansions and corporate offices in every state in America, they can change their mailing address any time they want for whatever reason they want. It only makes work for the admin staff and accountants.

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        Excuse me. I resent that remark, I deleted Facebook and Reddit years ago. Haven’t been outside yet though.

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    If you can’t contribute anything but only take take take, then get the fuck out of the whole country while you’re at it. And stay out!

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    Greedy fucks should be totally stripped of their wealth wherever they go so as to (re)learn what its like down here with us

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    People of California: Don’t threaten us with a good time. (Also, not like their tax dollars will be missed)

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    This happened in NJ and the billionaire who “left because of taxes” has both returned to the state since and pretty consistently stated he did not leave because of the tax hike and never said that was his motive. While I am sure these scumbags will do whatever is necessary to avoid paying taxes my point is don’t expect the media to not propagandize here.

    The narrative being built is clearly one to make the average person think “increasing taxes on the wealthy will hurt us!” This is what happened in New Jersey. “If the tax increases are passed and David Tepper leaves it will cost the state hundreds of millions of dollars and ruin everything!”. It’s that domestic abuse shit; “you should just let me exploit the fuck out of you and if you don’t I’ll bail and it’s your fault for not letting me continue to do so”. Also fwiw while Tepper left NJ was fine and while his loss was notable to the tax budget it was not insurmountable by any means. NJ and California are already quite wealthy states.

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      If the billionaire class really had taxes as their top priority, or even near the top; they would have moved to Nigeria or something a long time ago. Instead, they stay in “commie-fornia” with high taxes … wonder why??? [because of so many reasons, from infrastructure to knowledge base…]

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        Ah, so that’s why billionaires are all investing in space travel. Fuck you Earthlings, my primary residence is my space yacht.

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      % of profits made in the state off standard pricing, tax the company. The company can choose to not sell their products in the state. If Google/Apple/whomever decides they don’t want their products used in the state and lose 40m customers, that’s their choice.

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        Go one further. If a company doesn’t want to make it’s product available in an area, that area has full access to all of its intellectual property and anyone can duplicate their work and profit off of it.

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    “Leave” as in claiming their primary residence is in Florida while spending all of their time in California.

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      Puerto Rico does it right. In order to claim primary residence there you have to physically be there for something like 180 days of the year without any travel. States need to do that too.

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        there’s no method to track that for interstate travel…and we certainly don’t need to give more data to the police state.

        as with almost all the rest of the US’s problems, the root cause is a half-assed federal system

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      I live in a regional hub in a red area. All the people who live in the surrounding counties split their time between shitting on the “big city” and spending all their time here without paying any taxes

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      California is pretty strict about taxing you if you spend too much time there.

      I’m in Washington state (no state income tax) and have had colleagues who’ve spent a lot of time in California warned by payroll that they’re approaching the limit on time before you’re deemed a tax resident (maybe 180 days per year, but I’m not sure).

      In particular, any part of a day spent in California counts as a whole day, as I understand it. So if you fly in on Monday evening, spend Tuesday and Wednesday, then fly back Thursday morning, it’s 4 days.

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        California is pretty strict about taxing you if you spend too much time there.

        In order for that to kick in, you need to be drawing salaried income, otherwise they have no means of tracking you. Salary is an insignificant component of most billionaires’ income.

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      i doubt he wants to be associated with florida right now, considering what happened to his sidepiece last year, involving windows. thiel is a creature of habit, he hates anything news that unravel his behaviour.

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          thiel had a model boyfriend(sidepiece) in florida, whom he showered with gifts and what not, when the bf became concerned about thiels ANTI-LGBT agenda with conservatives, he mysteriously “fell” out of an apartment building after he voiced his concerned to thiel about it hurting the gay community. it barely made any news, but its not surprising since thiel love to suppress any bad news about him.

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              jeff thomas, type in google you see some reddit discussion about him, it was pretty messy. apparently it was also result of third wheel situation as well