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Remember, in A New Hope the stormtroopers on the Death Star are missing on purpose. They want to put up a token resistance to let the gang escape with the tracker onboard.
IRL less than 1% of rifle rounds fired in battle by US soldiers actually hit the enemy.
Also, in Star Wars, those Storm Troopers on the Death Star are firing at someone incredibly strong in the force most of the time.
Also, misrepresenting the capabilities of indigenous people isn’t exactly unheard of in this universe or others.
I’m well aware that across most of the rest of the franchise Stormtroopers generally are bad shots.
However I argue that it is easy to view the entire original trilogy as Stormtroopers being competent. A New Hope is easy as you already pointed out that they were supposed to let them go. Plus the off screen extremely effective results against the Lars homestead and the Jawas which is both combat and effectively following the droids.
Empire Strikes Back they are extremely effective with invading the Hoth base. Luke is supposed to get to Vader so that part can be ignored. Then for the rest escaping Lando arranges a lot of surprise trouble for the troops as well as R2D2.
Then for the Ewoks I think almost everyone has it backwards. They all look at how tiny and low tech they are and draw conclusions from that. The more important thing to look at is their results. Not just the main battle but look before that.
- A scout (Wickket) is smart enough to make a reasonable level of basic communication with absolutely zero starting point with Leia.
- They successfully trap/ambush a Jedi and a Wookie and a droid with sensors. Ok yea required some stupidity on Chewies part but still incredibly impressive on the Ewoks part.
- They were literally planning to eat several of the heroes.
- The traps everywhere. They clearly didn’t make the big traps just in the day or two when the heroes showed up. That forest is an absolute death trap and miracle that the trap the heroes triggered didn’t kill them.
- Battle morale at large not breaking under attack from mechanized and ranged weapons.
- Immediate willingness to ride a speeder and a successful dismount in spite of zero clue how they work.
That is just what I can think of off the top of my head. I’m sure there is more. Honestly they are closer to facing an army of fantasy dwarfs than what people say they are like.
There are stormtroopers, and then there are stormtroopers. The 501st legion is the best of the best. Most the riffraff were… not.
Like. Every planet probably had to source storm troopers for their own defense from local communities, and they were basically somewhere between Paul Blart: Mall Cop and Keystone Kops.
The stormtroopers on Tatooine were 501st. The ones on the Deathstar (at lest, some of them) probably were, as well, given Vader’s presence. DS-1 troopers wouldn’t have been there if they weren’t competent, at least.
Everyone’s in here making excuses but really it’s just not great writing / continuity
Yes…there’s many many examples of poor writing and inconsistency.
…but this is just a joke and it stretches the meaning of the ANH scene to make an inaccurate meme. In the first film the point of Obi Wans comments, in my mind, was to highlight the type of weapons used. It’s more of a “parsec” situation. He was trying to describe the actual impact of the weapon and we’re being distracted by the use of the word precise. He should have said “impact spread”, or something else that wouldn’t have made sense to viewers at the time.
the parsec thing is also meant to be a joke in the film. the script calls for guiness to react incredulously to the obvious nonsense but his reaction is very subtle on screen.
yup.
Han was bullshitting them. Remember, Han is a fast talking scoundrel who runs scams on rubes.
For people who don’t know Parsec… is a unit of distance. an object 1 parsec from the sun would be an object that has a parralax angle of 1 arc second. a second of arc is the easiest to explain- it’s 1/60th of a minute of arc, which is 1/60th of a degree. (arc second is 1/3600th of a degree.) it comes to about 3 lightyears.
It would be like saying, “I made the Chicago-NY run in less than [whatever miles]!” when talking about how fast his ship is. The distance is fixed. the kessel run is largely fixed.
well, not anymore. it’s been backwritten into some sort of space-warping area where keeping your distance short is impressive
I ignore that. I prefer the bullshitting scoundrel, to be honest.
Maybe Han came up with that when he got called on it. lol.
I also agree that the fast talking Han messing with a hick kid is the better option.
However I have to at the same time admit that if you are going to make it actually hold up as something literally accurate then it is one of the best retcon jobs ever written to actually make it work.
Sadly it comes from one of the more painful old expanded universe series because Kyp Durron is one of the most insufferable overly perfect wonder kids ever written. Plus also being the books with the Sun Crusher which is fighting for the most overkill super weapon in all of Star Wars. Which is really saying something considering the huge range of super weapons through the franchise.
Yeah. Sun Crusher is… uhm.
Like. Why. even? Even the Deathstar serves no real functional purpose. That’s the problem with brinksmanship, and mutually assured destruction. Eventually, you’re gonna have to grab that other guy and jump off the cliff. And now, instead of a economically productive and valuable planet, you have an asteroid field. That, sure, you can mine for minerals, but that effort is now going to cost orders of magnitude more.
And lets be honest. If the goal was to keep people too afraid to try anything, eventually some dumb kid from a dried up backwater is going to blow it up. And then you look really fucking weak.
The economic loss of entire systems, though, is just bad for business.
Yeah but that sniper was the famous raider Swargo Tulponian, there are 3 books in the expanded universe about him
I genuinely have no idea if you’re serious or trolling.
All relevant books were rendered noncanon when Disney bought the property, so it doesn’t matter.
Who gives a fuck what Disney considers canon?
I mean, yeah, a lot of people do, but they shouldn’t.
Fair.
