Videogame executive Xu Bo, said to have more than 100 children, and other elites build mega-families, testing citizenship laws and drawing on nannies, IVF and legal firms set up to help them

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    17 days ago

    Of course, what rich person hasn’t had the idea of stealing Genghis Khan’s behavior that left around 8% of modern day China his ancestor.

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    17 days ago

    This is less about nationality and citizenship as it is about billionaires skirting laws and exploiting the poor. In this case, it’s just foreign billionaires exploiting American poor.

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        17 days ago

        Ooooh, I remember this game!

        Yes, we average Americans are certainly guilty of the sins of previous generations.

        Even first generation Americans, who are children of immigrants, like me, and had no choice in where they were born.

        Naturally, we are de facto guilty of everything some rich assholes and our government’s policies have done to the world, and we must pay for it with our lives and livelihoods.

        Oh, also, none of the contributions in the sciences, arts, and literature from normal Americans ever made life better for people around the world.

        We are a cancer upon the planet and must be exterminated. It’s just “our karma”. We americans are bad and deserve all the bad things in life.

        Am I doing it right?

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          All that rabid American pride in the current climate makes me sick tho big chief. look in the mirror we don’t value human rights at home or abroad. Anyone can make a joke at americas expense. especially right now, but I still got my second amendment to protect my first. Would you like to know more? You seem to already know what I think but I’d happily elaborate why I made that comment. Your original assumption in your straw man left you looking pretty ridiculous so I’d love to see you try to pivot.

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            Who needs to pivot?

            If we’re playing the game of false equivalencies, my sarcasm said everything that needed to be said about your blithe presumptions about “karma” for entire nation of people.

            Also, “karma” doesn’t actually mean “comeuppance”, or “consequences”; it means (roughly) “work”.

            Source: I have Northwestern Brahmin Indian blood, and was made to thoroughly study the Vedas, Puranas, Ramayan, Mahabharat (and the Bhagavad Gita contained within it).

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              Well that opens up like 3 layers of this onion you dropped on my plate. See I didn’t even have to straw man you! The stereotypes are working on overdrive for me. Holy shit. What can I even say that hasn’t been said at length. If you are American then why would you not use the American use of the word Karma? like popularized on the internet, commonly used for the last 20 or so years Karma. The one an average American would identify with and not the hindu translation. You sure hold a lot of US pride for someone who doesn’t understand US context on popular language? ‘instant karma’ there is no way you exist in America and don’t understand the context I was using.

              NEXT

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                Citizens and residents of the United States don’t deserve to be exploited by foreign billionaires, to keep in context to the comment you originally responded to.

                What you said implies a justification for the exploitation of the “American poor” (OP’s words) due to or for the “karma for the last century” (your words). If we replace “karma”, with “comeuppance” or “consequences” to keep in line with the “American context”, it still sounds stupid.

                So once again, to be clear without sarcasm, an entire nation of millions of people who trace their identities and heritages from every corner of the planet don’t deserve said exploitation from both domestic and foreign billionaires.

                As an aside, the “American definition” of karma comes from an incorrect definition from the first British translation of the Bhagavad Gita by Sir Charles Wilkins in 1785 during their colonial occupation of India. I commented about it because of how stupid it sounded to me, given my background and understanding of its concept.

                Is this where I say, “NEXT”?

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                  An independent democracy who choices its fate at the voting polls every year in November…… surely they won’t suffer for their actions! Yes it’s unfair to judge a country by their civic action over the last 100 years.

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    The WSJ may sometimes be less evil than Murdoch’s other companies but at the end of the day this is a Murdoch publication and it must not be trusted too much. The ultimate purpose of the article is to build right-wing outrage. The other comments already do a great job explaining how it’s really the billionaires who we need to rein in.

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    Oh, a billionaire says he has over 100 children and it becomes a whole anti-immigrant panic article in the WSJ.

    It’s paywalled so I can’t know for sure, but I bet they don’t even verify the claim. I bet they ran with this because they’re onboard with the ending of birthright citizenship.

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    16 days ago

    Sounds like a big pile o bullshit.

    The US is a failed state at this point. Ain’t no one queuing up to get in.

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    When I lived in hacienda heights I saw tons of pregnant women that didn’t speak any English. It was suspected that most of the townhomes/condos in the area were citizenship farms.

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    If anything could convince libs of supporting the end of birthright, it’s the threat of hundreds of chinese babies being born to US citizenship.

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      Race has nothing to do with this. Take “Chinese” out and replace it with literally anything else. They’re still billionaires exploiting loopholes.

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        Birthright isnt a loophole.

        If you want to abolish billionaires, you dont need to deal in xenophobic scaremongering to do it; but if you want to abolish birthright, you gotta play all the notes of xenophobia. The billionaire flair is just the lib-spin.

        The WSJ publishing this story should tell you everything you need to know about its intent

        Edit: otherwise they would be writing about how billionaires are exploiting inheritance