What is the accelerating rise of m-dashes from approximately 2014-2019 about? That trend apparently continued until very recently, even slowed down a bit, before exploding at some point in 2025 or 2026 for obvious reasons.
Does anyone have a theory?
I assume it’s due to phone keyboards.
Emdashes on this chart are the Jaws theme of vibeshittification.
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You can get a lot done when you’ve got 29 months in a year
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The weird US American Date scheme is not used in most of the world.
D/M/Y > M/D/Y
Because one lives the other should not long live Y-M-D
The dates below the graph
What about them? They’re normal dates.
Pretty much only in the US.
Some BS AI “visionaries” keep blurting.
(Ftr; you’d also see this sort of thing if a new cohort, say ESL speakers from a particular country, was suddenly able to contribute when they couldn’t before.)
Personally the only part I have seen is documentation is now vibe coded, where in the past, it was autism coded.
As long as it’s short, sweet and to the point and not prose.
“This function doesn’t return an
int*, it returns achar *.”
Is that graph actually real/based on data?
git grep -I '—' master | wc -ljust did a quick check, my graph looks similar.
Important software that caught buggy code from Linus at review stage? Riight, we are all gonna die, sure
Man, I miss when Linux felt like a refuge. It’s always been flawed of course but now it feels like everyone in positions of influence are embracing the awful
It’s getting harder to justify the inconvenience of going off the beaten path if that path is turning into the same slop as the commercial ones.
The Linux Foundation has unfortunately become a commercial shithole, run by a clusterfuck of Silicon Valley VCs. When I see the kinds of garbage AI projects that are being shoveled into it every day, I lose more and more respect for it.
Look for yourselves: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/projects
And it’s sad to see Linus falling into their lock and step. I respect him for a lot of things, but when it comes to AI, he’s sadly just wrong.
Holy fuck, that is a lot of AI hype projects.
The beaten path is sloppifying a lot faster than the alternatives and where management gets angry if you don’t use AI.
True, and for most things you get a choice, in contrast to Windows/MacOS. But if the kernel itself slides down this path there’s not a lot you can do unless you’re willing to sacrifice enormous amounts of time and effort.
I’m kind of done with this passion, I’ll be investing more of my time into yard maintenance and my boat.
As an actual human who uses em dashes — or usually, two or three hyphens that turn into an em dash in Markdown — I feel personally attacked.
I will usually just use one (1) hyphen for that purpose - in the much same way that I will use "…" instead of “…” - because I like to upset typography nerds.
Same, but I’m unlikely to use them in comments
aren’t those regular dashes? em dashes seem just a bit longer
N dashes. They are as wide as an n. M dashes are as wide as an m.
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Sure. You can totally avoid them. Just by using very basic sentences. The same is true for a lot of puctuation.
But that doesn’t make your sentences planned better but is simply a sign of limiting yourself by avoiding any complexity.
Bless your — illiterate — heart.
Confidently incorrect. Read a book now and then.
Read a book ✨
No.
What does this say about how LLMs plan their sentences?
when using a monotype font, shouldnt n and m dashes look the same even?
grep doesn’t care about font.s
The graphical representation does not matter, they are still different character
I’ve been using linux for 18 years, but since reviewing the Open Slopware list I’ve been making a lot of changes.
FreeBSD ticks almost every box I need it to. It runs Plasma, it runs Steam/Proton (through a thin compatibility layer that enables a lot of other linux software), it can be set up immutably and has superior containerization natively via jails. It even supports XDG compliance.
But there is no support for changing voltage or clock rate on any amd gpu (maybe any gpu at all) and no driver support for my newer amd gpu at all.
It honestly feels like how linux used to feel back in the day 😅
I don’t think I’m gonna jump ship just yet. The recent ai code fiasco that happened in the linux kernel (race condition, regression, vacation) was averted by the team of talented human developers who reviewed Linus’ code. I am choosing to have faith that it will be ok for a while… given there are few alternatives.
That being said, I think I might finally be ready to hop on the fuck-sysyemd train. I was able to look past the megalomaniacal tendencies of the dev because the tools were so convenient, but the AI PRs and code review pushes me over the edge. I am gonna configure a daily driver in Artix soon.
Edit: I should note, FreeBSD also has some AI code issues. But the linux-libre kernel might not. Something like Hyperbola (GNU/Linux-libre) might be more appropriate for someone who is trying to avoid ai code strictly.
Last I tried, BSD didn’t like the WiFi on my laptop, so it’s currently a no-go for me.
Gonna survive on Linux for now, but at least I know I have a potential refuge elsewhere.
I use Gentoo with OpenRC btw.
can you elaborate on the recent fiasco you mentioned? I totally missed the news on that
Linus introduced a race condition and a regression with a AI generated code, then handed off fixing the problem to someone else because he was going on vacation.
Fiasco might have been an exaggeration, but it’s still pretty lame.
pretty lame
lame /lām/
adjective
Disabled so that movement, especially walking, is difficult or impossible.
:/
Race conditions are not unusual, and it was caught during review, so there’s really no problem here.
This was caught during review, so nothing was “introduced” quite yet. And there’s no indication that Linus wouldn’t have produced a race condition (a notoriously more easy to miss kind of bug) without the use of AI tools.
It’s only being exaggerated so much because he used AI.
Yea he basically said “This seems to work but is slop, lead Dev, make it real.”
I could attribute the race condition just as much to their use of the C language as to AI.
Great
This doesn’t make me nervous at all…
Not what happened. I’m not digging it up but this story has been debunked repeatedly
(you’re welcome to just point folks to a debunking)
Literally you got hit with an linux mailing list saying this is what happened?
I really love the emdash. I’m very—very—upset ai ruined it for me—cunts.
Rebel. Start using triple em dashes⸻see?
Fu———ck yeah.
This reads like Haiku
It could be a haiku. They don’t need to be 5-75 syllables. It’s more about an observation or a moment of clarity/realisation. The first two lines set up a concept or image, and the third line closes out the thought, usually with contrast. Just have to structure it properly.
I really love the emdash,
I’m very—very—upset ai ruined it for me.
Cunts.
I once tried to write a haiku,
Whose syllables were out of skew.
The words started flowing;
I just kept on going,
A Limerick will just have to do.5-75
You have been reading much longer haikus than I have 😜
That’s how you know that comment isn’t ai. No dash.
Oh, that reminds me: is Haiku still a slop-free OS?
Slop and driver free
Turns out AI learned from humans, who learn from the writings they’re exposed to
It’s an endless cycle, and we’re only in the first revolution
And one solution would be to just turn off all grammar and spell check and let people’s fat fingers and inability to spell let them stand out as the human. Oh boy.
Ya except the internet called everyone grammar nazis for caring.
I did that over a year ago. It was always misinterpreting what I was trying to say and fucking it up, so this is honestly way better.
On the plus side, drunk people would have a MUCH harder time starting arguments…
So, I’m guessing you don’t meet too many drunk people…
Greta jda
It’s not just Linux, it’s GNU + Linux
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as GNU + Linux, is in fact, Linux
It says Linux Kernel
🟥 Linux Kernel — CORRECTED: NOT GNU/Linux
It’s a joke about common LLM-gen-AI text patterns
Recursive self—emprovement
No, that’s just using an em dash wrong in the place where a hyphen belongs.
Hyphem
Tap for spoiler
All become em—dash
High fun?

We have to ride it for long enough so that a microkernel inevitably becomes the better option.
Maybe L4? IDK, but it’s something that makes this kind of choice irrelevant.

















