company known for cancelling shows after 1 season is surprised to discover their viewers are dropping shows after 1 season
Exactly.
Netflix viewers: “There is more than 1 season to these shows?”
That’s the glib interpretation but it’s more likely NetFlix knew we sucked all along and was acting accordingly than that they trained us only to watch one season.
Season 1, 8 Episodes of “mid quality but has potential and I’m invested”. After this, there are 3 possibilities:
- Show gets cancelled before season 2 because people weren’t interested enough
- Show gets cancelled after season 2 because people weren’t interested enough (2 years later)
- It’s Stranger Things
I would argue most tv show now only need to be 1 season long but they either pad them out so much it’s insufferable OR create needless drama that i do not care about to keep the show going
Most story lines need to end in a single season.
The time between seasons is sometimes way too long, people move on eventually.
they are so proud of their personalized recommendations. why don’t they just push the new season to viewers of the last when it becomes available
Probably because Netflix has a habit of often cancelling shows after a season or two. Why should viewers get invested in a shot if there’s a good chance they will be cancelled?
Also, too many Netflix shows are pretty shit these days.
Its not just Netflix these days. Every new show seems to start their life on the chopping block. If the first season doesn’t get enough views in the first few days its out then season two doesn’t even get made. If it does do okay then they get to start writing a second season, which means another 2 years before we get a second season and by then we have completely forgotten the show until you read about it getting cancelled 2 weeks after season 2 came out because nobody tuned in.
The costs have ballooned too much. When seasons were 18 episodes and it costs $100k per episode, it made sense to serialize. Often they were written as they were filmed. Now every episode costs $10 million and preproduction takes a year before the first scene can be filmed with massive post production. No one has really cracked the formula for making TV formats work well on streaming services. The all at once for binge watching only works if you already have a massive archive of shows to expose. The one episode a week for short boutique series that run a season every 3 years is not working well either.
Yup I’ve decide I won’t watch a show that isn’t finished at this point. I’ve fallen in love with too many just to watch them get canceled.
The OA was so good and they fucking canceled it, I’ll never subscribe to their service ever again for that.
Saaame. I got so angry when they canceled it. It broke my trust in them to deliver an end to any shows. Then they kept doing it. Left quite a long time ago and will not go back. There’s just nothing worth the money on Neflix.
Yup they just aren’t willing to allow a show to take time to establish themselves, many people won’t discover a show until its a few seasons in or even finished yet they can’t stand it if a show doesn’t get lots of views in season one.
The unskippable ads. They’re worth a lot of money, apparently.
Season 2 was setup to be awesome.
The biggest issue is they take years between seasons. People lose interest.
The first two shows they mention coming out with a season 2 recently had their season 1 release in 2023!
I refuse to start watching a show until it’s finished. I get to watch the entire series at my own pace (no waiting a week between episodes or years between seasons), I avoid stewing in my opinions and reading public opinion during the hiatus and having that affect my enjoyment of the next season, and I don’t have to worry about the abrupt emotional disturbance of a premature cancelation. The only downside is having to avoid spoilers and not being able to join in conversation with others who are actually watching it while it originally airs.
I agree. Other people are referencing how Netflix cancels shows after one season, but that doesn’t seem relevant here. We’re talking about people who do watch season 1 but not season 2.
Yeah two years for six episodes and I just don’t give a shit anymore.
Only for mediocre shows tbh. It took 3 years for Severance S2 and it was highly awaited still. Now after S2 I’m even more excited for S3 and don’t care if they take 2 or 3 years as long as the quality stays there.
But I don’t remember when Netflix had something I was so excited for.
Wait, I do actually. The Witcher. Super excited, didn’t care that they took 2 years… But then S2 was nowhere near as great as S1 and S3 just took a nosedive.
There’s a reason S1 was highly memed and the other seasons not.
…I’m not really sure why they care. In 99% of cases, there’s only one extra season to watch anyway because Netflix cancelled the fucking show.
Yes, I’m still salty about Santa Clarita Diet, why do you ask?
I’m salty about Marco Polo.
Kaos for me. Will be pissed about that show being cancelled until I fucking die
Agreed. I would happily fight in a fierce battle with each Netflix executive, akin to Street Fighter II, to make them to pay.
Sense8 here
It had such a unique concept and they did a great job at executing it
So what if it was horny that was part of the charm
That show was fresh. I still seethe for it being cancelled.
Maybe because netflix cancels show a week after season 1 drops?
People got burnt too many times, best case scenario it’s a huge hit and in 3 years we get a 8 hour season 2.
Why would viewers get invested?
Seems like a positive feedback loop:
- Netflix creates show that’s pretty good
- People watch it
- Netflix takes too long to release season 2
- People forget show exists, stop watching
- Netflix drops a season years later
- No one watches it because they forgot what happened in season 1 and Netflix shows are so serial that you have to know what happened
- Netflix cancels show due to low viewership
- Fans of the show feel jilted and slam Netflix on social media
- Rinse and repeat
i’ve been stuck on step 4. price hikes chased me away, i haven’t been back. i don’t even know what’s “new” anymore, and i don’t care.
i just watch the stuff i have locally, there’s more new (to me) stuff on my disks than netflix has ever produced.
Don’t forget the step in between 4 and 5 where Netflix recalculates the interest in season 2 and drastically changes the scope and pacing, making it more jarring for returning viewers or turning them off before the season drops
Or what about how the first fifteen minutes of each season 2 episode is just “last time on…” and viewers decide they don’t have the time for this shit
Our family’s policy is that we don’t start a Netflix show until it has run its course and is over. We’ve had too many disappointments watching a show we like, only to have it get abruptly cancelled. There are too many other things to watch that won’t pull the rug out from under us.
I’m sure Netflix hates this, but it’s their own fault. We are only responding to their irresponsible programming nonsense.
Netflix vs Google, who can cancle the most stuff I like?
Netflix couldn’t even finish Altered Carbon respectfully. Got a season 2 and some poor anime to finish it off.
Can’t trust em with any series really.
Did we get a season 2?
Sure, in the show’s universe, switching actors made complete sense. They literally can put their consciousness in another body, it’s the entire premise, yes. Anthony Mackie isn’t a bad actor whatsoever. I liked him in The Banker, Pain & Gain and some other shit he’s done. Yet, to me, the show went to shit as soon as he became Kovacs. Just seemed like a huge tonal shift the show didn’t need. And it’s been a while, but if I remember correctly, the character felt like a completely different person, not same guy in new body.
Yeah, the only similarity between them was the name of the character. They didn’t sound or act similar. It would have been neat if you could recognize the character despite the different appearance.
The first season had flashbacks of his old body, and it felt like it made more sense. The change in accent was a bit offputting, but can be reasonably explained away. Mackie just felt like a completely different character.
Yeah they got the Firefly experience there
Why should viewers be interested, when Netflix treats its shows like draft ideas that more often than not get scrapped after one season?
Netflix started it.
A whole story in 3 words.
Bring back Kaos then you fucks
Kaos was so good
Jeff Goldblum as Zeus was absolute cinema
My experience with Netflix shows tends to go like this: I hear about a new show from people at work (or maybe here). I watch and enjoy season 1. I never hear about the show again until someone mentions that there sad it was cancelled after additional seasons I never heard about.
Personally, I find it hard to watch things when I don’t know they exist.
