• cattywampus@lemmy.world
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        13 hours ago

        That’s why democracy is also known as being ruled by the hordes of idiots. It’s amazing when people are well informed on what they are voting on, the problem is that’s never happened in mass and never will. People will vote based on their feelings or just straight up not at all.

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          I’m imagining the most wealthy (who think they know what’s best for the world, like P.T.) would say something eerily similar to what you are saying.

          The very rich have access to all of the information. One can’t expect people who face significant barriers to higher education (and other means of informing themselves) to be on the level of experts, the educated and informed, or the very rich.

          Why are people against experts, the educated, and the informed?

          Partisan news media seems like the likely culprit. A broken political system posing as democracy could be another factor to consider. Opaque algorithms that put people into information bubbles (with the intention to make them addicted and as uninformed/reactionary as possible) are definitely a major factor.

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            3 hours ago

            Calling democracy mob rule is really old. I would at least prefer representatives to be scientists or otherwise the most informed on the subject and policies they are deciding on. I would also prefer all policies to be tested to see if they actually create their desired outcomes. I would prefer the desired outcome to always be increasing human and environmental wellbeing.

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            11 hours ago

            Why are people against experts, the educated, and the informed?

            I’m just thinking how for most of history, humanity put these people on a pedestal and let them get away with a lot (through religion, in most cases I think).

            I think your culprits are accurate.

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          7 hours ago

          family guy episode about lois campaign for mayor basically sums about the low, uniformed voters. all she needs to utter was a few words, and keep reminding people of a past incident.

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            4 hours ago

            Yup just tell group X who dislikes thing Y or group Z that X and Z are bad and you’re in like Flynn.

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            3 hours ago

            He’s not the first but I was thinking about that. I can’t remember the critic but early on in the American experiment someone described it as mob rule.

            Similar but I would prefer a representative democracy but where the representatives need to be national experts on what they are deciding. So for instance if it’s medicine then the representatives need to be physicians and medical scientists, and previous heads of hospitals. If it’s dealing with the environment then the representatives need to be environmental scientists, civic engineers, and so on. Aka have the most informed people for that which you are trying to make decisions. Even better, have their policies reviewed by a body of their peers the same way scientific publishing works to get a measure on how good or bad their ideas are. Even better, test their ideas when they’ve been implemented to see if they’re actually working.

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          11 hours ago

          The number of people who vote by the top name is higher than you expect.

          Last name start with a B and your opponent’s last is a T… you’re getting a head start just because of that alone.

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            If I dont know any of the candidates, I vote against the declared republican by voting for the declared Democrat. If a republican is running unopposed, I write in Barack Obama. I was a swing voter before Donald Trump became president.

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        9 hours ago

        Lots of recall campaigns have successfully been done. They have the benefit of being very public and attention grabbing by nature. That’s if more immediate ejection/dismissal mechanisms don’t exist on a panel/committee.

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          You’re operating under the assumption that these people haven’t already made the calculation that wherever bribe they received is worth their position.

          So recalling them, or voting them out, after they’ve done what they were bribed/blackmailed to do, isn’t the threat, or check on power, that many here believe it to be.

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      9 hours ago

      Even if he lose he will be hired by flock, it works this ways sadly.

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        Meh. Flock isn’t big enough to hire every rando county commissioner that buys their garbage. This isn’t Lockheed hiring a retiring general or some K street group picking up a friendly senator.

        And even if they do hire him, at least he’s not in a position supposedly representing anyone anymore.

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        9 hours ago

        He didn’t get the cameras, the sheriff did. They want them to pass an ordinance to block their use