• SupraMario@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    You think there aren’t laws designed for people like this not to acquire firearms?

    People can put up a pool without a fence.

    More children die by a magnitude of 10 compared to those killed in school. 800-1k a year drown. Less than 50 kids a year are killed in random school shootings. And that just drowning, add in alcohol related deaths, and the number shoots way way up.

    Yet you’re ok with pools. Which serve zero purpose. Firearms at least have a purpose.

    So yea you don’t care that kids die, you only care how they are killed.

    Those drills are also as pointless as the nuclear drills from the 60-70s… they’re pointless and do nothing but cause kids to become fearful of shit that is more rare than them drowning.

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      6 days ago

      So your argument is 'the law is ineffective, so we best just give up. Maybe focus on some tangental issues, but don’t do anything to solve the actual problem, which is the ease of obtaining a firearm, legal or otherwise." Because all of the homicides by firearm are a n acceptable statistic for you as long as you get to keep your guns.

      And the difference, by the way, between pool deaths and road deaths and all the others you cite, and guns: intent. The number of people who just snap one day and decide ‘I’m gonna drown my entire family on the pool’ or ‘I’m gonna drive my car through that bitches house and kill her’ is so statistically insignificant that there is no cause to protect society from it. Whereas guns allow such easy access to death that the homicide can be perpetrated before there is any time for rational thoughts. Just pick up a gun, bam, one more dead person.

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        5 days ago

        So your argument is 'the law is ineffective, so we best just give up.

        Where did I say that? Murder is already illegal. You gonna make it double illegal?

        Maybe focus on some tangental issues, but don’t do anything to solve the actual problem,

        I’ve already explained the problem, you keep focusing on the tool used. More people are killed with knives than all rifles combined. Yet $100 says you support another pointless AWB dont you?

        which is the ease of obtaining a firearm, legal or otherwise."

        Please please wise one, tell me how you plan on enforcing your ban on a country with 450+ million firearms in circulation.

        Because all of the homicides by firearm are a n acceptable statistic for you as long as you get to keep your guns.

        Considering that (I’ll point this out …again) alcohol kills more people…yep you’re damn right I’m not giving my firearms up until you can magically fix the issues in this country starting with the fascist fucks who are in power.

        And the difference, by the way, between pool deaths and road deaths and all the others you cite, and guns: intent.

        So…again. You don’t care how they die just that guns were the cause. Knives and hands/feet kill more people a year combined than all rifles do…but like I said above you’d be for another AWB.

        The number of people who just snap one day and decide ‘I’m gonna drown my entire family on the pool’ or ‘I’m gonna drive my car through that bitches house and kill her’ is so statistically insignificant that there is no cause to protect society from it

        So…again. You don’t care how they’re killed, just that guns did it, so they’re bad.

        Whereas guns allow such easy access to death that the homicide can be perpetrated before there is any time for rational thoughts. Just pick up a gun, bam, one more dead person.

        Just swerve into civs…one more dead person…just grab the kitchen knife…one more dead person.

        Everything you’re listing has one thing in common that you can’t seem to focus on. Why they did it in the first place. Your bandaid solution is “ban all guns” (because let’s be honest, criminals don’t follow laws, so making more restrictions matters zilch to them, they’ll get one from the black market).

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        5 days ago

        Yep. Age 15 to 17 is the majority of those deaths, and the majority of those are from gang violence…aka the murders you don’t care about, because you and everyone else points out school kids.

        Also that’s outdated. Cars are the number 1 cause of death in kids again. Only reason it was guns was because of covid and no one traveling.