• truthfultemporarily@feddit.org
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    6 months ago

    Yeah but DLS would be a significant downgrade for many people, who already fight the suggestion to only eat meat six days a week tooth and nail.

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6013539/

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10537420/

    https://pubs.acs.org/doi/suppl/10.1021/acs.est.3c03957/suppl_file/es3c03957_si_001.pdf

    Things that count as DLS:

    • 10 m² of personal living space + 20 m² for every 4 ppl as bathroom / kitchen
    • 2100 kcal/day
    • 1400 kWh/year, but this already includes public services (education/healthcare)
    • 1 washing machine per 20 ppl
    • 2.4 kg clothing / year
    • wear tops for three days and bottoms for 15 days without washing
    • 1 laptop per 4 people with a yearly power consumption of 62 kWh. (bizzarely they talk about an 800 MHz computer and seem to confuse HDD and RAM). If your gaming computer used 400 W you could use it for 150 hr/year.
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      6 months ago

      I’m gonna need a lot more than 10 square meters of space if everyone is changing their shirts twice a week. Yuck.

        • arrow74@lemmy.zip
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          6 months ago

          You could double everything in this post too and that’s only 60% consumption.

          • 20 m² of personal living space + 20 m² for every 2 ppl as bathroom / kitchen
          • 4200 kcal/day
          • 2800 kWh/year, but this already includes public services (education/healthcare)
          • 1 washing machine per 10 ppl
          • 2.4 kg clothing / 6 months
          • wear tops for 1.5 days and bottoms for 7.5 days without washing
          • 1 laptop per 2 people with a yearly power consumption of 62 kWh. (bizzarely they talk about an 800 MHz computer and seem to confuse HDD and RAM). If your gaming computer used 400 W you could use it for 300 hr/year.

          That seems a lot more reasonable to me and we still come in under carrying capacity

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          6 months ago

          They live in a world where 700 million people are currently starving. Do you think you care about the washing machines if your children have nothing to eat?

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            6 months ago

            That’s the heart of the issue, though, isn’t it? Most people do care about the state of their washing machines even as countless children have nothing to eat. People chastise their kids for not eating their vegetables by saying “kids are starving in Africa,” without doing anything to help any kids in Africa. People want more for themselves even while acknowledging that others have so much less. Studies like this assume that human selfishness is negligible, while it’s actually one of the largest variables that needs to be factored in. Most people don’t actually care about human suffering unless it’s happening to someone they personally know - they care much more about their washing machine.