I never mentioned horses. You also never mentioned rotary phones. Knowing how to grout bricks would also be on the table, and those are everywhere in European towns.

Also, if it wasn’t clear, both @[email protected] and myself were just making an “obvious” joke of sorts. It isn’t to insult people that do not know things, it is just a statement of: “obviously people that never used a thing have no idea how to use it.”

I would actually prefer all people can learn and know stuff. I like that I know how to start a crank-start tractor and also how to shut it off by shorting out the magneto (although I hate transient energy from the spark going through the body). I don’t use it as a joke or something I talk about, I just know it because I happened to learn it.

Want to learn some techniques to split wood with an axe? I can teach! I also can teach how to mess with a JSON API on a web site to get the data I want when the vendor doesn’t know how to use documentation, or flash firmware on obscure hardware, or set up a mesh network, or build a ham radio antenna from random metal, or cross-compile an open-source CPAP analysis app using old QT APIs and modifying them to support modern platforms, yet can’t find contact info with the vendor to let them know how to do what I did so they can compile for ARM Macs. Knowledge flows both ways.

TL;DR: Was a joke.

Companies want that sweet, sweet live telemetry.

That sounds hilariously delightful.

You should see them with a kerosene lamp.

Surprisingly, Apple. https://www.apple.com/diversity/

Not trying to sound pro-them, to be clear. I just use that page as a Fascism canary.

Allegedly, I heard that they have to list any side effect that came up in placebo trials, even if the drug didn’t cause them. Still just wish drug commercials would be banned again like they used to be, though.

Samsung’s tablets aren’t bad. After you do a healthy round of debloating. Buy a top of the line Galaxy Tab from 2 years ago on clearance to avoid high prices, too.