That’s a good data point I’ll keep in mind. Unfortunately cachy does not do nearly as much for the user out of the box so I can’t really recommend it to those friends, but it’s a great distro.

Edit: can I ask what hardware you were running?

This is kinda why Bazzite is the only distro I can recomment to my gaming friends. The default settings work well, and its very hard to break it because its pretty locked down and it pushes users to use flatpaks via the app store, which generally work great. It also does its own updates in the background (with a backup just in case!) so nobody ever really has to worry about it, and I really appreciate it for that.

OK? I was just commenting on the state of the situation, there’s nothing to “deal with”?

This is just not true at all, only recently have alternatives started to spring up that even get close to the number of features and level of polish that discord has (note, discord still has plenty of issues, I’m not saying its perfect)