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  • middle class people have fucked over the poor. systematically. middle class people hate the poor more than rich people do. they are the ones who are passing your local town laws that systematically prevent any/all development and trying to keep poor people from moving there by inflating property values and providing no jobs. they are the ones who complain about homeless people and think they shouldn’t exist.

    I’m part of the middle class now, and grew up poor. Everyone around me now hates on poor people incessantly as if it’s there hobby. They love nothing more than to brag about how ‘educated’ and ‘successful’ they are and complain about how difficult their lives are because of evil poor people making them have to pay taxes. And if you dare suggest that maybe their ‘downgrade’ of a 3 series BMW from the 5 series they could get if they had less tax, is not that big a deal… they scream in your face what piece of shit asshole you are.

    Oh and if they find out you grew up in poverty… they stop talking to you entirely. They don’t want your ‘poverty’ to be anywhere near them.

    the middle class are people who do steal and take and are embittered that they can’t steal and take more, like the rich do. They are not people who say ‘i have enough and I am content’.



  • You don’t know how to think like an uneducated person.

    that is the step you are missing. and the fact there are more of them than the educated people.

    uneducated people see none of those benefits. you as an educated person and voting for more educated people because you see their benefits.

    uneducated people don’t see the world this way. they see educated people stealing and hoarding everything for themselves and fucking them over, which frankly, is basically what has happened the past 30 years. all the benefits of modern society are being kept by a small minority of wealthy well-educated folks, and the bottom 90% are seeing their quality of life plummet and their access to the fruits of modern life dwindle.

    poor people working in the service industry aren’t benefiting from any of what you are talking about. they are getting shut out of any medical treatment, can’t afford new cars, can’t afford home improvements, higher quality foods, etc. all that stuff is for the rich people.



  • What society? Much of society does not benefit from any of that, and most of the part of society that does is the rich part. Hence why many people are totally on board with defunding educational institutions to which they would never have any access anyway.

    I support free education, but my country doesn’t. I prefer the Canada/European model of education, but the USA doesn’t agree. We have a fundamentally different education system from start to finish and their model tracks students from an early age in a way the USA system does not. in Europe I would have never even been allowed to apply to university… in american I was able to go to an ivy league school on a 80% scholarship from a lower income community.

    USA has a fundamentally different culture around education, which is more more deeply rooted than just the economics and politics of it all. Spend most of my life being harassed and maligned for being pro-learning and pro-scholarship. Hell here on lemmy having any scholarly neutrality towards the issues and topics being discussed gets you harassed and threatened, because it’s politics uber alles and and facts in and inconvenient truths that scholarship shows us get in the way of true belief.

    Anyway, i have been through the american edu system. I did pretty well, and I paid back my debts. I didn’t regard it as horrible, undue, or terrible. I simple lived lean and prioritized it an got it done. Alas many people I have met don’t do this, and carry around their debt actively refusing to pay it back or piling it up. I’ve had girlfriends who told me it was my ‘duty’ to pay off their debt too, because you know, sexism and all that.

    My taxes already help people. But I’m not really sure someone getting 150K of debt relief so they can teach elementary school for 40K a year is really a burden I should be paying. There are plenty of pathways to teaching that don’t require that massive amount of debt to be taken on. It’s not about punishment man, it’s about us collectively paying for other people’s stupid and selfish decisions.

    Europe also has a totally different attitude towards medical care. One of the biggest issues with the USA system is that… we are so actively unhealthy. Americans choose unhealth and then blame society for their poor habits. Should we tax people based on how overweight they are? because that would actaully be a far and equitable way of distributing medical costs.

    I’m a socialist who understands that socialism isn’t some free magical cure all to problems. It’s just a shifting of the burden and without providing the correct incentive structure it doesn’t really benefit anyone and punishes everyone.




  • job market for what exactly? what jobs are they trying to find exactly?

    job market is great for some professions, shit for others. yeah for entry level tech it’s shit because they massive overhired during the pandemic and are still oversupplied with too many shitty coders because there is a massive oversupply now as everyone chased computer science for quick and easy money. for nursing you can make a killing if you are willing to travel nurse or get yourself into certain specialties. but nursing is hard work and a lot of people don’t want to do it.

    the devil is in the details. there is no generalized job market where average joe can just get a 100K job with a English/psych degree from a state college. all those jobs requires specialized degrees, experience, and connections, years of effort to get your foot in the door.

    industries come and go and oftentimes you have to move with the times and the geography. my brother has been unemployed for 5 years… but it’s because he’s a stupid ass who refuses to move or take a job he thinks he is ‘below’ him. (less than 300K salary at a big corp) and every employer can see that attitude he has and his inflexible arrogance and why would they want such a person on their team? many people are their own worst enemy when it comes to employment.

    having interviewed people over the years… 99% of candidates are eliminated because suck and fuck up the interview process, or are applying for a job they know nothing about. Out of 500 resumes you might get 5-15 that are actually relevant to the position and show the candidate actaully is familiar with the company and the position, of that group maybe 5 get an interview and 1-2 are actually desirable hires.





  • and republicans are always wrong and bad right? and democrats are what… always good and right?

    you realize economics doesn’t care about your political affiliation?

    debts don’t magically go away. someone has to pay the piper. you are just saying you’d rather pay it off via your taxes and increased interest rates, than have the debt holders pay it off. you are simple shifting the burden from the individual debt holder to everyone else. I’m glad you are willing to pay off other people’s debts for them, but many people don’t agree with that mentality and that doesn’t make them bad people or republicans.

    I’m a socialist democrat myself. but i still believe in personal responsibility and incentives. debt dischargement doesn’t create positive incentives. a huge chunk of people who get their debt discharged will go right back and pile it up again. and most with massive debt loads… would have never had them in the first place had they bad better financial choices, like paying back their debt ASAP rather than letting it grow for years.