Nobody should go to jail for words.

Damn, thats fucked up.

Eh, HRSG’s got real popular in the 90s and now most major plants have them. Its not a rapidly changing space, dont get me wrong. But new shit comes around every so often.

Are you saying that if there was a thermal battery in neighborhood you wouldnt need pumps? You know how a fucking thermal battery works? You realize most of the central heating systems you’re talking about heated the water by using coal plants to send super heated steam to them right? Where did you think that hot water came from? You’re an idiot and people like you are part of the reason this goes so slow.

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Im sure he just uses his environmentaly friendly wood stove…

Oh, I understand now, you live in a pretend world of idealistic ignorance. Thats not now ebs and flows of energy demand work. You shouldn’t participate in a conversation if you 1. Don’t understand realisticly how the subject works 2. Are so biased against the reality of the situation you make completely insane attempts to justify your ideas.

So you’re against nuclear power too? If that’s the case I’ll double down on my previous statements. Being anti nuclear is simply being dumb. Tell me about how CO2 is sourced and explain how you’re saying its being sourced by burning fossil fuels. What other industries use CO2 as part of process? Have you looked into CO2, how its captured, used and its necessity at all? Again, this is something I can tell you have a very surface understanding of with no problem being vocally ignorant.

A process called DAC (Direct Air Capture) is currently used on medium scale to do this. Other instances in which they obtain CO2 is by capturing byproduct of industrial processes (the biggest and most pure being from hydrogen/ammonia production) or power plants. Again though, and I dont think this is sinking in, it is a closed loop system. So, once enough CO2 is captured, thats all that battery will ever need. Its not using new fuel to create more co2 it’s taking a specific amount from currently available, filling the battery ONCE then process over.

You understand this isnt about a new way to generate electricity right? This is about a new way to store it. The generation side of these is tiny and it’s a closed loop system. The CO2 is in a CLOSED LOOP system meaning its not going to be leaching into the atmosphere. The issue with many renewables is they can’t operate well in swings. Thats why electricity price is constantly fluctuating, because the demand is. So a sustainable way to store renewable generated energy will be able to accommodate those swings in demand in a way plain solar panels/wind/hydro alone can’t. The CO2 is likely harvested directly from the atmosphere. Once the battery has X amount of CO2 it no longer needs more because again, its a closed loop. Clearly you have issues politically with the company, that can’t be helped. But you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Edit- the CO2 COULD be harvested from the atmosphere using DAC. The currently used CO2 is coming from an unnamed company with no clearly stated source. Industrial CO2 mostly comes from the creation of hydrogen and ammonia, both chemicals we NEED to survive. The excess very pure CO2 from this process is the majority of what is considered globally as “industrial CO2”. So, a waste product is being used that would otherwise be released to the atmosphere, used in industry or stored.

It drives me crazy people don’t want farmers to be given aid. We already get so much of our food abroad and thats only going to get worse. Farm gate values are absolutely trash and any smaller than large scale industrial farm is hurting bad. Wanting domestic farmers and agriculture to fail is the epitome of cutting off your nose to spite your face. You want a food economy completely dependant on foreign import? Good luck when we have the most trade hostile president in history.

Thats not what this is regardless of what you’d personally like it to be. You’re showing clearly that you’re poorly educated on electricity generation.

I can’t possibly see how this ends poorly.