We need to prepare for WWIII. America won’t stop until they control the world.

Well that seems like a pretty easy hypothesis to test. Why don’t you log on to chatgpt and ask it what will happen if you let go of a helium balloon? Your hypothesis is it’ll say the balloon falls, so prove it.

Well that’s simple, they’re Christians - they think human beings are given souls by Yahweh, and that’s where their intelligence comes from. Since LLMs don’t have souls, they can’t think.

Are you aware of the two types of NPD - grandiose and vulnerable?

So you don’t think a goddess agreeing to punish a guy for not wanting any fucc is aphobic?

Here’s some more context: Narcissus was the son of Liriope, a nymph. Nymphs do not typically have any sexual interest. Liriope only got pregnant because she was raped by Cephisus. Narcissus inherited his mother’s beauty, and it seems clear from his actions, her asexuality.

Many a youth, and many a damsel, courted him; but there was so stubborn a pride in his youthful beauty, that no youths, no damsels made any impression on him.

And here we have Ovid attributing asexual behaviour to pride, and not to just being ace.

So are you aware that he was cursed by a god to fall in love with his reflection because he didn’t want any fucc?

Fine, I’ll analyse ONE of the alternatives to Conon you cited: Ovid.

Some one, therefore, who had been despised by him, lifting up his hands towards heaven, said, “Thus, though he should love, let him not enjoy what he loves!” Rhamnusia assented to a prayer so reasonable.

There we are. Narcissus rejected someone and they prayed to the gods for revenge, and outlined very clear parameters for the curse they wanted Narcissus to suffer. They wanted him to be made to love and not have what he loves. So Rhamnusia made him fall in love with his reflection.

Now get off your lazy ass and do some research if you want to argue with me.

“In common use in the 19th century” is a liberal interpretation of Havelock Ellis coining the phrase “Narcissus-like” in 1898. Sure, that’s the 19th century for two more years, but the actual word “narcissism” doesn’t appear until 1911, and it’s clearly within a psychiatric context.

That’s a bold claim to make, when I’ve explained the full myth and you haven’t. Now, if you were to cite any particular example and build an argument from it, then I would take your objection in good faith and respond in kind. However, if I were to pick apart and examine each of those four examples, why that would waste perhaps an hour of my time, all in response to three words of yours. That would be holding myself to a hundred times the standard of evidence you’ve provided. And if you were to demand I do that before you believe me, well the word for that is sealioning. Which is why I have concluded your argument is not, at this moment, in good faith.

Those versions support my interpretation too.

Why are you making fun of a teenager 4000 years after he died? Get a life.

You’re absolutely correct that the modern word “narcissistic” has little to do with ancient Greek mythology. See, the modern use is actually based on popular media portrayals of narcissistic personality disorder, which is why flippant use of the term is ableist.

For some reason, some people think the word’s ancient Greek etymology means the modern use isn’t ableist. They have some erroneous perception that modern people are speaking Greek when they say it. But as you now point out, that’s ridiculous, because the word’s meaning has changed over the last two thousand years. So the word has gone from being queerphobic to being ableist.

Truly, anyone who says the word is okay because of ancient history is an idiot.

You mean like Freud’s theory that children who fail potty training and can’t let go of their poo become maladjusted adults who try to control everything in their lives?

You’ve nearly got the myth right, just missing one detail: he only fell in love with his reflection after he was cursed by the goddess Rhamnusia. She sentenced him to die of thirst because he wouldn’t date anyone. He was only 16.

That’s all from Ovid. Try to evaluate that story in a modern context, and you’ll see it becomes pretty gross. I really like the story as an example of how horrible people can be to asexuals. But most people side with Ameinias’ interpretation that not wanting to date anyone is an act of abuse and hubris worthy of execution and two thousand years of hate.

That’s fucking gay.

Narcissus wasn’t arrogant in the Greek myth. He was a 16 year old kid who everyone thought was beautiful. Lots of people wanted to bone him, but he just wanted to be left alone. After this one guy, Ameinias, proposed marriage to him for like the tenth time, Narcissus told him to fuck off and die. Ameinias did as he was told, and prayed for Nemesis for revenge. Ameinias thought Narcissus didn’t want to marry him because he was arrogant, so he prayed to the god of punishment for hubris. The ancient Greeks didn’t understand asexuality or being a late bloomer, so they took Ameinias’ side in interpreting the myth.

Anyone who thinks “narcissist” is an insult is also unknowingly taking Ameinias’ side.

I’m glad you haven’t been exposed to the Reddit communities where they use that word as an ableist slur.

Well sure, you can say you’re using the original Greek meaning, but if you did that, I’d judge you for all the cultural baggage associated with the Greek meaning. You’ve got to do your homework when you cite ancient history, because if you don’t, then you might not realise you’re referencing a queerphobic interpretation of an ancient myth.

Hook nosed greedy goblins who control the banks, huh? I’m sorry, I was clearly mistaken. I’m sure there’s no subtext in that.

Isn’t the game about putting down a Jewish slave rebellion?