In an obscure post, a Mozilla MLE announced a ClawBot ripoff specifically targeted at at tradespeople (electricians, plumbers, roofers, handymen) for help with administrative tasks like scheduling, explaining invoices, etc.

What is their project, ClawBolt? According to their website, it’s a compilation of

  • A flaky AI agent you run on your computer
  • A Telegram chatbot to remotely control it
  • A connection to OpenAI to parse all of it

This sounds like a dangerous project to target at tradesmen, doesn’t it? AI marketing tells people that AI is smart and safe and powerful when it is anything but. If Facebook’s top AI safety genius nearly destroyed her own email inbox, how will a plumber fare?

One of the features of ClawBolt is “memory,” something that will store and possibly corrupt questions and answers like “What’s Mrs. Johnson’s address?” and “My hourly rate is $95”.

But it gets worse: ClawBolt documentation says it can scan images to “get help identifying fixtures

Remember the memes making fun of AI’s inability to make wiring diagrams?

I can only imagine how bad this could make things for tradespeople - in addition to violating customer privacy, getting gaslit by a non-deterministic “memory” machine, and potentially breaking their work computers.

  • ViatorOmnium@piefed.social
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    If the AI is dangerously wrong in the things you know, how dangerously wrong is it in the things you don’t know? And will you realize it when you see it?

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      If an actual electrician AI existed (and not this administrative task AI) it might be dangerous for normal people to use it. But if an actual authorized electrician uses an AI to do unsafe work they are a terrible electrician and shouldn’t be an electrician in the first place.

      Why is everyone assuming tradespeople are terrible at their jobs and apparently unable to spot unsafe instructions about their own profession?

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        Why is everyone assuming tradespeople are terrible at their jobs and apparently unable to spot unsafe instructions about their own profession?

        But you said:

        It’s just an AI for assisting with various stuff tradespeople don’t necessarily know .

        If they don’t know/realize the AI is wrong why would they double check? That’s the problem with these systems.

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          I mean it’s accounting and admin stuff. So it’s not dangerous. Worst case scenario is that they loose money or I guess it’s theoretically possible that they “accidentally” commit tax fraud or something but that is obviously their own fault and it’s not really dangerous.

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        Because I’ve seen enough farmers and handyman work to know that a LOT of people think they know what they’re doing. Or know just enough to be dangerous.

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          So it’s not an AI issue then? It’s yours countrys inability to certify electricians and plumbers properly.

          Someone that’s dangerous without AI is dangerous with AI. Someone that knows how to do their job isn’t dangerous with AI.

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              Overconfidence in what exactly, invoices? Who gives a shit! Stop acting like improper invoices or some other admin shit is in anyway dangerous. This is just fear mongering

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                Who said anything about invoices? You’re not even making a coherent argument anymore.

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                  Did you not read the fucking post?

                  In an obscure post, a Mozilla MLE announced a ClawBot ripoff specifically targeted at at tradespeople (electricians, plumbers, roofers, handymen) for help with administrative tasks like scheduling, explaining invoices, etc.

                  It’s not an AI designed to do electrical work, plumbing or whatever. It’s for admin work like dealing with invoices. This has been my point the this entire time so I don’t get what you are referring to? Is your context window full or what 🤣

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          Do you seriously think any tradespeople will just forget how to do their job just because of some stupid accounting and admin task AI?

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              How will they get worse at the part of their job the actually matters if they got an AI that helps them with invoices?

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                Oh piss off with this “its just administrative tasks bro, it’s just meant to replace secretaries bro.” Nobody believes that garbage.

                You think “accounting and admin stuff is not dangerous?” That those tasks don’t “actually matter?” Please tell the IRS that excuse when it files your taxes wrong, and let me know what they say.