• Flickerby@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    This is just blatantly false, men’s rights do vary wildly state by state. I get what this is saying and I agree with the message but presenting a good message behind a lie doesn’t make it any less of a lie.

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      2 months ago

      I am also very supportive of women’s rights but lying is not helpful.

      Honestly the point that it tries to make is not the point that it makes either. It could be understood as “let’s ban abortion everywhere”, and I don’t think that is the point that it tries to make.

      I am in favor of bodily autonomy and I don’t care what the law currently is anywhere, it should be a given.

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        2 months ago

        I am also very supportive of women’s rights but lying is not helpful.

        Worth knowing: although they attract a lot of anti-feminist losers, the “men’s rights” activists are absolutely correct that men do not universally have the same support programs or even legal presumptions that women do. These can vary widely from state to state and even from court to court.

        It’s not nearly as big an issue as “they want her to die from a miscarriage”, but “they presume he’s the inferior parent” or “they presume he caused the violence even if he’s the one bleeding” are also sexist oppression.

        (Comparisons to the anti-woke “all lives matter” bullshit are apt – men can and should recognize that relatively minor slights and injustices are not nearly as urgent as denying pregnant humans life-saving care!)

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          2 months ago

          I would agree and disagree.

          You are right but I think “ignoring” “men’s issues” harms the feministic cause and consequently the “dying of miscarriage” problem. As sad as it is PR is sometimes very important and e.g. the lie in the post doesn’t help the PR and a lot of young men don’t feel supported but attacked by the current framing of feminism.

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            2 months ago

            I think we agree and agree.

            I was careful not to use the word “ignore”, because the answer to anyone sharing how they were harmed by sexism should never be anything less than “that’s horrible and I hate that it happened to you.”

            Sexist women who claim to be “feminist” and yet feel free to denigrate men or dismiss their perspective are terrible advocates for the cause.

            (Not “their” cause, because sexism is an evil that harms everyone and everyone should be against it.)

            (And sealions who claim to be “men’s rights activists” but just want to be sexist anti-feminist trolls are at least as bad.)