1Password faced immediate backlash from customers this week over a $300,000 pledge in support of a Linux distro created by David Heinemeier Hansson, who has regularly published overtly racist blog posts that include comments calling for deportation of ethnic minorities in Europe. The popular password manager is now a “distinguished corporate patron” of Omacom, the nonprofit foundation that oversees a popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.

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    of Omacom, the nonprofit foundation that oversees a popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.

    popular?! According to whom?

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      From Omarchy’s site:

      malleable OS for the age of agents. Where you can vibe your way through every alteration, tweak, and desire. Be the Omarch and command your agent!

      Wtf

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      Cachyos will forever be the ideal Arch distro for nerds who want the benefits of Arch without the hassle of Arch (until they support some giant racist or soemthing)

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    When/how/why did DHH fall off so bad? There was a time when he was (at least vocally) shitting on Jeff Bezos, Chamath, and a few other “friends”

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      Probably around the time he started writing blog posts about how there’s too many brown people in London, or comparing Romani to invasive predator species?

      Being against a few horrible people doesn’t automatically make you a good guy…

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    Keep in mind that internal fights among community discourage users from shifting and benefit Microsoft. I would not be surprised if the smear campaign is a big tech initative.

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      That’s right. But are you suggesting we just sweep it under the rug and ignore the support of racist people? Because that is what big tech does and not a lot of people like it

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    Interesting case of how funding decisions can quickly become part of a much bigger conversation around tech, politics, and community trust. It will be interesting to see how this develops.

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    … Can we not just write shit down?

    I don’t understand the need for this password keeper shit outside of a work/corporate environment.

    Edit: the concept of writing really pissed you nerds off…

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      I have more than 300 logins. My password manager handles passkeys, 2FA and has integretad alias creation.

      At some point you just can’t compare.

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        That feels excessive and I genuinely think y’all are paranoid about how often people are trying to hack you. Been running the same few for like a decade with no issues. Now I have a relatively low online footprint but still, the tech world in general is starting to feel like a form of psychosis.

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      The hard password you think of are actually very low entropy and easy to crack, the only good ones are random ones, which are hard to remember (except for the random words ones). It’s impossible to remember 200+ totally random password for a regular human

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      You can’t just write down a secure password. It should be long enough to not be practical to write down on paper.

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      I do write stuff down. In my password manager so it’s always with me all the time and is much more difficult to gain access to than if I were carrying around a notepad. Also, I ain’t got pockets for that, and I’m not buying a wardrobe of cargo pants.

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      Write that shit down.

      Ok Grandma and her password book.

      The point:

      Application unique passwords and MFA in the one package. Cross platform so I can use on phone and PC. Costs like $10/year. Also locks the credential and passkey to set URLs so phishing attacks are harder.

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    Why does this shit distro deserve all this funding and support? There’s many better options doing a lot more for the ecosystem yet this gets the attention. It’s don’t understand.

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      That’s the thing about real world. People don’t ask for permission to do things.

      If you think you can do better, who’s stopping you?

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      It uses AI to fix issues and errors. And billionaires need people to use AI as much as possible.

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        to fix issues and errors

        and create more issues and errors, like executing USB device names as root.

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          Bundling of their stuff into the base installation, I suppose. With simple math, if 1password gets like 33k subscription payments, that’s about $100 000 already.

          Omarchy got perhaps a 100K installations just last month.

          They’re buying customers and visibility with a sum that’s probably pocket change for them.

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          Per @[email protected]’s comment

          I think we all know why. Whether having money causes racism, or it just so happens that racists are the ones with the money and they’re good at keeping it “In The Family” so to speak is kind of tangential and academic. It’s the hateful bigots that have the cash to fund big things, so if you want funding, it pays to be trashy.

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            They aren’t just racist, They also hate the poors and basically anyone that isn’t them.

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              I agree, but I suggest you direct your replies directly to the source comment. I’m just the messenger here.

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      I think we all know why. Whether having money causes racism, or it just so happens that racists are the ones with the money and they’re good at keeping it “In The Family” so to speak is kind of tangential and academic. It’s the hateful bigots that have the cash to fund big things, so if you want funding, it pays to be trashy.

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      Very seldom is something funded that “deserves” it. The answer is that its’ creator (DHH) is very wealthy and connected.

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    1Password does not endorse hateful, dehumanizing, or exclusionary views, including those shared publicly by DHH.

    Except… ya just did. Big 'ol cashy money endorsement.

    Or did you forget about that already? Because we didn’t.

    Art / artist.

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    “popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.”

    I’ve literally never heard of it.

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      I’ve seen a handful of videos about it recently that have been pushed into my algorithm. There’s definitely a campaign to get it out to influencers. Never heard of it prior to this week.

      It’s just a fork of Arch, with tiling, that’s been slop coded with AI. Something anyone could recreate without AI in a couple hours if they’re familiar with Arch.

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      It’s yet another distro being shilled by god knows who on YouTube and other social media.

      The fact that it’s being pushed so hard without anything of note about it is already suspicious to me.

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      I only know of it because I was on Distro Watch this week looking for top mention distros I never heard of. The mentions position is likely because of this donation. lol

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      yeah this is like a bunch of other internet things where I kinda hate it even seeing it. for me its not a thing of interest.

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      I’ve heard the name but have not spent the time to find out what it is. I thought it was some immutable distro. I think the same about bazzite and catchy (sp?) which are other distros I see mentioned from time to time and believe are immutable and flatpak-y and that’s all I know. I realise I’m just one data point but I never see a lot about these sorts of distros in my general browsing.

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      Oh well if you’ve never personally heard of it, it must not be popular, right?

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        I’m not OP but yeah, basically. People who are passionate about a specific topic will know what’s up in that area.

        I can name half a dozen of the most popular Arch-based distros off the top of my head because… they’re actually well-known. Meaning they’ve been around for years, I’ve used several personally and can argue their pros and cons, and they feature prominently in objective lineups like the Steam Hardware Survey. Omarchy is none of these things.

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        It’s virtually unknown in the Linux world too. It’s literally something they made up overnight and are trying to astroturf.

        I’d say “what a time to be alive” to see the day someone considers it worth astroturfing a Linux distro, except there’s probably some nefarious shit behind it.

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    Nonetheless, it seems the company has sacrificed a moral position for a “mission-driven” position. In the same message to staff, Faugno says “the scale and growth of [Omarchy’s] use among our customers is significant - Omarchy has grown to be the second most used Linux distribution among 1Password users."

    I didn’t know Omarchy existed until, like, yesterday, so this is surprising. Do 1Password users just tend not to use Linux, so second place isn’t many users?

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      I feel like this has to be made up, downstream repack distros almost never show up on the top 10 usage stats. You will always see Ubuntu way ahead of Kubuntu.

      Not to mention 1Password is a pretty popular enterprise app and I have yet to see some insane sysadmin actually roll with arch as their distro of choice. Most are probably on RHEL or some other enterprise derivative.

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          That piece of information seems like key context. 1Password didn’t just give money simply because they like the product. More or less, it’s product placement in return for funding.

          I’m on the fence if that’s better or worse.

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          Ah didn’t realize it came preinstalled lol.

          spoiler

          Prepackaged “superior” arch distro and the best they could come up with was 1Password? seriously lol?

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            1Password is the best they could come up with when “best” is measured in dollars contributed.

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          I said somewhere else that giving money to a distro won’t even have an ROI, but I didn’t know about this. If the distro is promoting their product that’s a whole other thing.

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          Terrible security record?

          Of the items listed in your link, only the second one seems problematic, in that I wish they had discovered the (non-password but still privacy related) issues first. Even that section acknowledges all of the issues are fixed. The only section that makes it sound like there is still a problem is the last one, which states that version X still contains the vulnerabilities, but in reality that’s just how versions work. Patching a vulnerability creates a new version.

          Is there ANY record of passwords being leaked from 1password because of their own lack of security??

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            The pattern is this: First, they find out who to hate. Second, they find reasons to hate. Third, if they cannot find any reasons, they make them up.

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          lol what. 1Password literally has one of the best security records out there. They’re the ones actually inventing new more secure ways of doing things. The fact that those are all of the issues over the years and they’re one of the most popular pw managers on the planet is pretty indicative of how strong their security actually is. And they’ve never had a password breach, unlike lastpass.

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      I haven’t checked but I would guess that 1password comes pre-installed in Oligarchy and they’re counting every user that loads the client as a “user.”

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        Isn’t that a commercial product for which great open source alternatives exist? What kind of distro does that?

        And don’t they also preinstall Basecamp, DHH’s own company’s product?

        Maybe it’s all just a vehicle for product placement.

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          What kind of distro does that?

          One that does not care at all about having maintaining a sane and open ecosystem. Where there’s money to make, they will prey down quickly. Now that people are somewhat convinced that Linux based systems can work and actually attract the general public, a whole new market is ripe for reaping.