Edit: if this comment is racist or homophobic, I don’t want to stand by it or defend it. It feels dishonest to delete it though, so I’ll just mark it as a spoiler
I’m sorry
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You wouldn’t happen to be talking about the Jewish/Cuban gay couple, would you? I’m all for representation, but that seemed like a bit of a reach to me XD
Context and intent matters. With your subsequent explanation, it’s not homophobic / racist. Without it, it seemed way too much like the average MAGA comment.
My problem was that that was the extent of their character. They’re only in a handful of episodes, and the focus of those episodes is entirely on their race. It feels to me like they tried to cram as much inclusion into as few characters as possible, which made the characters feel like tokens as opposed to other, more fleshed-out Cuban (Nina) or Jewish (Baby Bear, Charlie) characters.
Looking into it, I’m surprised there hasn’t been more gay representation within the show and I really wish there would be. I really like how they didn’t really make a big deal about Dave & Frank being gay, making it feel normal instead of unusual
You had it in the form of the comment, made by the person they were replying to, calling out tokenism on the show. That was your context. All they did was ask, in response, if those characters were what was being called out because they seemed “a bit much.” Which isn’t gay bashing or racist on its face. All it tells you is they felt those characters were exemplary of tokenism for whatever reason. You could’ve worked all that out if you’d acknowledged the context you already had. Instead you bit their head off over a slight you made up in your head. Damn. :-/
Edit: if this comment is racist or homophobic, I don’t want to stand by it or defend it. It feels dishonest to delete it though, so I’ll just mark it as a spoiler
I’m sorry
spoiler
You wouldn’t happen to be talking about the Jewish/Cuban gay couple, would you? I’m all for representation, but that seemed like a bit of a reach to me XD
Context and intent matters. With your subsequent explanation, it’s not homophobic / racist. Without it, it seemed way too much like the average MAGA comment.
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My problem was that that was the extent of their character. They’re only in a handful of episodes, and the focus of those episodes is entirely on their race. It feels to me like they tried to cram as much inclusion into as few characters as possible, which made the characters feel like tokens as opposed to other, more fleshed-out Cuban (Nina) or Jewish (Baby Bear, Charlie) characters.
Looking into it, I’m surprised there hasn’t been more gay representation within the show and I really wish there would be. I really like how they didn’t really make a big deal about Dave & Frank being gay, making it feel normal instead of unusual
Bert and Ernie are giving you side-eye :D
I almost listed them as more fleshed-out gay characters, but it’s never been explicitly confirmed in-show XD
TIL: a longtime writer considered then gay, but the show’s official position is that their just “best friends”
https://time.com/5399940/sesame-street-bert-ernie-gay/
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You had it in the form of the comment, made by the person they were replying to, calling out tokenism on the show. That was your context. All they did was ask, in response, if those characters were what was being called out because they seemed “a bit much.” Which isn’t gay bashing or racist on its face. All it tells you is they felt those characters were exemplary of tokenism for whatever reason. You could’ve worked all that out if you’d acknowledged the context you already had. Instead you bit their head off over a slight you made up in your head. Damn. :-/
Yeah Jesús dude it is my job to get bent out of shape over imaginary bullshit. Don’t put me out of work.
nah dude this one is on you for being too ready to lash out instead of think first