ugh I host my domains with them, but probably high time I switched away :/
34% YoY revenue growth but that isn’t enough! We want your salary also! Raaaaawr
Ah yes, the elimination of jobs is always good for society.
so i have to boycott Cloudflare now?
but imma wait until more Sources cover this, i dont want to rely soly on the register.alr thanks for linking their blog directly, am gonna wait a little to think am not gonna boycott them immediately.
wait for opinions
Wait for someone else to tell me how to feel?
600% increase in ai agent usage cant be coincidence
Useless company with useless services from silicon wankers.
“we have to be intentional in how we architect our company for the agentic AI era in order to supercharge the value we deliver to our customers”
God, I hate corpo-speak so much.
I recently had to listen to our glorious CEO (who totally isn’t a nepo failson) about the company being bought out (so yeah I’m getting fired within 2 years for sure) and it was just him furiously jacking off, thinking he sounded smart with all of his ivy corpo speak.
At a certain point I was like “you know, maybe violence IS the answer”
So much greed.
No wonder most of us give a fuck about our company. Why should I care if I am nothing more than a number that is unfortunately not a robot.
Working could be to just create something good and do so in a community with like minded people. And if it earns enough money to pay everyone’s comfortable life needs then that is enough.
That they constantly force growth is just the most toxic bullshit imaginable.
Yes. We need more worker owned cooperatives.
The halting problem is your friend. Have one agent review the work of another agent and then have trade places in an endless loop.
Perpeetum token machine
That tracks. Cloudflare was probably overdue to make a good solid run at grabbing defeat out of the jaws of success.
Edit: Hijacking this to answer the question on some of our minds:
“What was the name of that open source alternative I was able to ignore while CloudFlare was actually doing their job?”
It’s Anubis
we have to be intentional in how we architect our company for the agentic AI era in order to supercharge the value we deliver to our customers
🤮
The MBAs have won.
JFC, this marketing speak makes me wanna slap someone. I’m not sure how you can so many words and so little.
AI is shockingly good at doing just that.
I guarantee a human did not write this.
Word Crimes by Weird Al.
I guarantee you, managers, sales teams and PR firms have been writing copy like this since the first company was started. Unfortunately, LLM is just reducing the amount of typing a human has to do.
Don’t you worry about blank, let me worry about blank.
So little what? SO LITTLE WHAT???
why, torgo’s executive powder
I suppose, “write so many words and yet say so little”? Or less awkwardly, “say so little with so many words”.
Well shit. My ADHD brain leaves out words all the time. It was supposed to be “say so little”.
What did they win? If that works, they were right and deserved to get their way. If it doesn’t, thousands more jobs will disappear as they figure out how they ended up in this metaphorical smoking crater.
If you like spoilers, its going to be the latter.
Everyone needs to stop twiddling their thumbs and organize their workplaces.
Employees across the company from engineering to HR to finance to marketing run thousands of AI agent sessions each day to get their work done
Meanwhile the employees:
This is like measuring a carpenter’s work output by how much they use their hammer, not how much gets actually built. I hope every company that does this sorta bullshit goes belly up.
Wouldn’t it be like how often they use their measure tape?
Using their hammer would be the tools they use to actually code. This is more like measuring a carpenter’s work by how often they get advice from the workers at Home Depot.
If the company is only measuring token usage and not actual output, it’s more like measuring a carpenter’s work based on how many hammers they buy.
Yes.
But I do like that, by this measure, I have attained mastery of plumbing, woodworking, landscaping, and have become a master gardener.
Me when I find a skill trainer in Skyrim
They say you achieve mastery of a skill by spending 10,000 hours receiving advice from Hank over in Home & Garden.
It strikes me that it’s probably because of all the visibity it offers them into what people are doing and drives them to interact with the chatbot instead of each other. Not everything is about having productive workers. A lot of it is about finding people who are compliant suck ups who won’t question the boss no matter what and eliminating anyone with a half a brain cell and an ounce of class solidarity.
It’s about training their replacement. The more that they are forced to use it, the faster it will learn all of their jobs.
Having AI do your commits is a great way to game the system. Gives the added benefit of making it look like the AI wrote it for you as well.
Just add a co-authored-by line to your commit message to make it look like the AI wrote it.
But that doesn’t burn tokens. Comps can track how many tokens you use.
Yes it’s that dystopian.
Less money for middle class and more money for investors owning Nvidia, OpenAI, Anthropic.
Make no mistake about what’s happening, that’s wealth transfer from the bottom to the top.And with how this particular AI technology only works by consuming all of the internet’s and our libraries’ data … it’s not just a transfer, it’s pretty much theft.
and it still cant make anything good out of that slop.
Interestingly, I don’t think I share this sentiment.
I’m no fan and personally don’t use AI (I barely touched it early ChatGPT days). But people use it to do things in successful fulfilment of their initial purpose.
I’ve seen it. Maybe I’ve seen the successes and not the failures in some cases. And I’ve certainly seen badly failed attempts to use it, but in those cases I’m happy to ascribe the failure substantially to a misapplication of the tool (which to be fair certainly invites gross misapplication).
My point though is that I don’t think an absolutist “AI is never useful” position is persuasive any more nor absolutely accurate.
Which, in my view, makes addressing the “rest of the situation” all the more fundamental. Indeed, I think everything g other than its efficacy was always the important part.
Part of the problem is that ethical arguments are difficult for people and many just switch off when it comes to the common good. Which is all of course part of the problem too.
But I think that’s gravity of the situation right now: our collective instincts may be misaligned for the moment. Our personal habits vulnerable from our prior corruptions. And our societal architectures already mutated, perhaps beyond repair, and therefore ill equipped for this.
Doomy, yes, but you’ve got to fight the fight you’re in, not the one you’d wish you’d won.
Another way I could put this counter, is that I feel like so much of what’s bad about AI was bad before AI, and that society from 2005-2020 badly mishandled technology. Whether AI “works” or not doesn’t matter. So long as it can fit into the same shape and meet the same urges that tech did 2005-2020, it will be adopted. But if the consequences of its adoption are graver than what came before, then the whole stack of that history needs to be addressed.
One of the problems the anti-AI crowd have with protrsting this use case is that they don’t seem to appreciate that the enshittification happened long before AI.
Actual Software Engineers make up about 5% of the profession, the other 95% have been turning out slop that they don’t even understand themselves for years. In that environment, an AI that does the same but at least doesn’t complain when asked to do rework doesn’t seem so bad.
“works” is a bit too strong
Not even investors. Majority shareholders/BoD.
Uhh… All shareholders get wealthier when the stock price goes up, there’s no magic mechanism where it’s only majority shareholders.
Obviously majority shareholders will make even more, but they all profit from it. I’m not even American and my retirement fund jumped up decently from the S&P 500 going up. Though now I’ve exited from the US ETFs completely. Only Europe and Asia now.
Pennies or a few hundred vs millions was the point.
Every company that fires people for AI is going to regret it so much in the long run…
not if they all got thier golden parachutes, they treat it as an endgame, just run it like a PE firm and move on.
They’ve already had a spate of serious, unprecedented outages affecting half the internet.
So I guess that means the only place to go from there is to double down, eh?
the long run…
But…line go up for next quarter right?
Removed by mod
Still a short term win. Longer term, this will likely kill youth appetite for pursuing dev as a career option.
if it hasnt already? cant say the same for CS, since that have been lacking of jobs for like 10years already.
it’s also resulting in fresh grads that don’t know anything. this is naturally by design. within the past couple years I’ve come across so many new devs that just don’t know jack. can they answer tickets? sure. can they provide prompts to an agent? yes. beyond that? good luck. and their salaries reflect this.
No one is firing workers for AI. They’re correcting the size of their workforce after decades of overhiring and using AI as an excuse — to make it look like a good, forward-looking business decision, instead of showing that it’s fixing a mistake that went on for so long.
I wonder if stockholders could sue after the stock tanks/profit dips because it turns out those laid off employees weren’t actually replaced by AI?
sounds like a troll, but they started massively laying off since 2023, both my bros were affected severely, and then the company my older bro got bought off down the line. im in a tech hub in the west, and all they are peddling in the tech conference is all AI related, before it use to be a variety of software/tech, now its the same tech with more AI.
Nah I’m sorry you’re dead wrong. My last job we straight up got rid of 95% of our HR department and all of our interns and were replaced with ChatGPT Enterprise licenses. Then they laid off the graphic design department and left just the head of the department and 2 staff. Then I was laid off alongside over half of the IT department.
both of my bros suffered job loss, or "sidelined indefnitely. one got layed off since 23, and the current one have been “on the bench” since last year.
If your company did indeed lay off 95% of HR and replaced it with ChatGPT you need to find another job somewhere like now. They are about two lawsuits from not existing.
Had you read all the words in my comment, you’d see I’m no longer at that job.
I understand what you were told, but none of those functions are being replaced by AI, they functionally cannot be.
Removed by mod
Tons of people are getting fired because the owners think AI can replace them. Doesn’t mean the AI can do the work properly, but they are getting fired anyway.
I know a person that works at an AI startup and they convinced a company to replace their HR department with AI a while back. Funnily enough, that startup’s “AI” is largely “Actually Indians.” Their service is an agent that writes its own “tools” to solve problems/complete tasks, but the tools often don’t work, so they have a large team of devs in India rewrite them or do the tasks.
I heard Agentic is a codework for Humans actually, and Indians/south america, eastern europeans are the ones actually controlling the AI systems.
