• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      4 months ago

      Anyone pushing their views is propaganda. Propaganda isn’t always a bad thing, propaganda can be good, like antifascist or pro-communist propaganda, or it can be bad, like fascist propaganda.

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        4 months ago

        Pretty sure manipulating people is bad. States entrap resources, populations, and say this is ours and this is how you have to be. Governments the world over are mostly bad. Especially the powerful countries. Ml can downvote me if they want. But if the east or west were either so good our world wouldnt be a shit hole filled with war. Its pretty obvious. The capitalists need to not exist anymore, the emirates need to give up their monarchies, and Russia needs to let go of Putin. There could be peace. People with power just love power more.

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          4 months ago

          This is just idealism, though. Power isn’t a self-driving end, profit is what’s important in capitalism, and is why socialist economies achieve better metrics even with lower resources. What you’re doing right now is “propaganda,” in that you’re trying to convince me (or others) of your views.

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            It was just called thoughts before governments weaponized it. A government or state, like a corporation, will always act in its own best interest. Which is why they should not exist. We will continue to be inundated with propaganda and divided until they are abolished.

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              No, propaganda is just the intentional dispertion of information to spread views you align with. Non-government groups do propaganda all the time. Secondly, governments are only extensions of a class, they aren’t an independent entity, and as such are thoroughly enmeshed and dependent on the mode of production.

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                Whatever you define them as they are hierarchal structures used to secure wealth and resources from the main bulk of the populace. Hierarchies cannot exist in a truly equal system.