• TotalSonic@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    “Sideload” is such a dumb name for what is just the act of installing apps of your own choosing.

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      You’re missing the point. It is “just” the act of downloading and installing, which were seen as normal things to do. However, by calling it “sideloading” they can then attach any meaning, any implication they wish. This is now something different and wierd, not something normal people do, does your mom sideload? I’m pretty sure the battle for control of your phone that you bought was lost as soon as we allowed them to call it sideloading.

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        The name might well have come from the community, since the whole app store model is as old as the modern smartphone, and downloading a different way is new, while possible, was always for power users.

        If there had been a more normal software ecosystem from the get-go that would have been nice. Actual regulation to enforce device freedom would also be good.

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          Being able to download and install software from somewhere that isn’t the app store has been available the entire time, it is not “new”. I remember downloading .apk files and installing them on my first android phone, and it just worked. It wasn’t until my 3rd or 4th phone that you had to start enabling “unknown sources” to install a .apk, and they have been working to make it harder ever since.

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    12 hours ago

    Indian accent: “Alright mam, when you install this app, I will contact you tomorrow and we can proceed with the transfer. For security reasons, don’t tell anyone you received this call.”

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      7 hours ago

      Right, the real solution is not letting old people answer phone calls anymore, I guess, lol.

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      The real sollution is to lock India off the internet until they crack down on all their scammers.

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        There are scammer call centers in many countries throughout the world. So unless you want to start shutting off a lot of developing nations from the internet, that’s not a good solution.

        It’s also not a good solution because there will always be a workaround.

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          I basically never watch Youtube, its kind of cancer and Google is a spyware company.

          And this isn’t about race, its about a country cleaning up its own act. I feel basically the same way about Russia, for example. There isn’t an online servixe or system that sould not drasticly improve if Russians were blocked from the larger web. Its basically a factory for misinformation and assholes.

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              The question is then if you feel the same about Russia, China, Iran, and Israel?

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            Yes, there are many problematic states, probably all of them. That’s why people thought it was sus when you singled out india.

            My advice: Download a geo-IP database and firewall yourself in.

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          8 hours ago

          It’s still good.

          GrapheneOS unaffected - > more enthusiasts switch to it - > more funding - > better UX - > more interest, more adoption from less tech savvy people, possible professional grapheneOS installation services (think a guy helping gam gam install windows for a bit of cash, to start)

          And so begins the beautiful cycle of mainstream adoption of something great

          Or at least that’s what I tell myself when the current tech world scares me at night

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            Graphene, at least in its current state, is dependent on Google continuing to allow Pixel phone bootloader’s to be unlocked and relocked after a new OS is installed, and is dependent on Google for receiving timely upstream security update patches as well. Given Google’s current direction my guess is that both these things might be threatened in the future.

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      7 hours ago

      The majority of people have 2 arms. So why bother with prosthetics or research into biofeedback?

      See, it’s flawless logic /s

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        the majority of people would like to have a piece of my paycheck, so I’m giving some away

        -statements dreamed by the utterly deranged

        -cunts that write shitty articles like this

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          I feel like this is terribly unfunny but mom didn’t make no bitch so I’m not deleting it

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    Are there any real statistics about the real number of scams deployed via “sideloading non verified apps?”

    I do not know the number. But I don’t think there are that many cases. Most scams I’ve seen have been via web or via a normal app downloaded on the appStore.

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      Scams require some level of idiocy, complacency or distractedness to pull off. If you’re going out of your way to install non-standard apps you’re likely paying enough attention not to fall for it.

      If youre getting a mark to install something on their phone, you’d probably have just as much luck getting them to sent you a Western Union cheque.

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    With arguments like those that person already seems like an astroturfer IMO. Also sideloading is the language corporations used to delegitimize decentralized app installation.

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    Patrick you should go fuck yourself, you are not different from that low life systemd age field PR asshole

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    The classic “you are too dumb to choose” if only education was a thing…

    We are at a time where governments and corporations actively dumb things down until they can make this excuse, instead of actually doing what is right for the people, which is investing in education and treating people as intelligent and autonomous beings.

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    “Sideloading” is anti-property-rights loaded language.

    The correct term for installing something by means other than the Google-approved method is “installing normally.”

    It is the act of capitulating to Google’s control, due to the incorrect belief that you need its permission to use your own property how you want, that needs a new term. So far all I’ve been able to come up with is “cuckloading,” though I’m not happy with how sexism-adjacent it is and am open to suggestions.

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      Nah cuckloading is perfect. The best way to make an insult like that not effectively belong to the sexists is just to use it in non-sexist contexts. The intrinsic meaning of cuck is perfect for this. Fuck the extrinsic meaning. We can change that.

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      “Sexism adjacent”…

      Complains about how language is politicized and used to control people and then turn around and do the same exact thing for another topic in the same breath. Jesus.

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      Might be easier to come up with a specific name for installing something from Google. “Google loading” maybe.

      The we just go back to “installing”.

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        Walled-Garden-stalling?

        “A googol steps to add an app”

        Authoritarian-stall

        Package Micromanager

        Daddy Google’s allowances

        Controlware / Slaveware / Theirware

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        “Google loading” isn’t derisive enough. The example I came up with isn’t quite right, but I do want it to have that same feeling of being a grave insult. Maybe something like “simploading?” Or “dipshitloading?” “Brownloading” (think like “brownnosing”)? IDK, I’m just spitballing here.

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          To really sell it in the US anyway, you could try renaming sideloading to “freedomloading” or maybe “freeloading” (which sounds very Tom Petty, or porn related like “loadblowing”)

          Then to rename the vendor locked loading is tricky. Even the old term “jailbreaking” has negative or criminal connotations. Though the jail is where you were wrongfully imprisoned, but that doesn’t convey easily. You could try to flip it around and call the locked down version “jail loading”. Or “commie loading”, all you would need to do is get some democrats to pretend to support vendor lockin.

          Problem is any legislator on either side is in the pocket of the corporations who will oppose this, so there is no incentive for a propaganda campaign on the other side. So everyone will renain convinced sideloading is evil criminal hacker shit.

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    Awww… Uncle Google just wants what’s best for me! So what’s the harm in getting into his van? What’s the worst that could happen?