• merc@sh.itjust.works
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    25 days ago

    The Soviets deserve even more credit for being able to defeat the Nazis after they supplied the Nazi war machine for a couple of years. Whether or not the USSR should be admired for everything they did in WWII is another matter.

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      Of course, we can call out the Soviet atrocities, but credit to the superhuman sacrifices they made and snatching victory from the jaws of defeat despite being back stabbed and caught on the wrong footing by the Germans. The thing is with World War II is that it’s a fight between evil and lesser evil. The Allies were objectively less bad, even though they had colonies and committed heinous acts in the previous 400 years of colonisation and even during the war. A joke in Tropico videogame sums up the meta-nature of the belligerents in World War 2 when you are forced to take sides: “One is bombing civilians. The other-- is evil.”

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      The Allied effort on beating the Nazi war machine was a collective effort, and no single country has the right to take the full credit for it, imo. Not the US, France, not even the UK (which, however, is to be appreciated for standing up to Hitler during the harder times, even under a conservative government) - as a Romanian, I would argue that much less the USSR, which forcefully imposed the abdication of our king and backed the communist’s terror regime against its political opposition.

      Had this collective effort not existed, we would probably be today under the influence of the 3rd Reich and with probably more dead than there were already.

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        Decades of propaganda saying that the US was responsible for defeating the Germans. Finally when enough historians and other scholars have weighed in and said, “really though, it was the USSR that did the most to defeat Germany”, now people say “well, it was a collective effort and no single country should be claiming credit.”

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        25 days ago

        god i wish i could force a king to abdicate while backing a communist regime against my political opponents.

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          All while threatening him it could be either that or 1000 students would be killed? Hmmm, it would likely be a hugely unpopular action and lots of people would call your regime illegitimate and would want you dead :)

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      25 days ago

      Whether or not the USSR should be admired for everything they did in WWII is another matter.

      Well that matter is quite simple; No the shouldn’t. As anyone with a basic understanding of The War should know.