• BeBopALouie@lemmy.ca
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    I was a consultant for 40 years. I was that guy that logged in remotely and took control of your PC. People absolutely lose it. It does not matter if you tell them or try to explain to them. On countless occasions I would be on the phone with the person saying I am logging into your computer right now. They would start screaming that somebody is hacking into the machine. It would take a couple minutes to calm them down. Same thing if I said I’ll be logging in in five minutes. I would inevitably get a call from the person that I just told five minutes ago I was logging in saying somebody’s hacking their computer. I am so glad I am retired now.

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    “differently than you” is a funny way to say “triple clicking a hyperlink every fucking time oh my god you only have to click it once, mom”.

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    My project manager refuses to use hotkeys, watching her copy/paste with the right click context menu takes years off my life.

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      I had a boss who didn’t use even the context menu never mind keyboard shortcuts. He went for the application Edit menu to copy/paste. Gave me headaches.

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      Watching people open the browser (whoch open to google by default), typing google on the search field and hit search, selecting the first result (which of course is google) and the making their search when it open

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      Years ago saw someone copy/pasting stuff in Excel one field at a time using the “Edit” menu. She told me this way she knew it was working.

      I had to walk away.

      I will also say that back then computers were a lot scarier, since many people had never used them. People were terrified of clicking the wrong thing.

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        She told me this way she knew it was working.

        To be fair, I always Ctrl+C multiple once to make sure it copied, even though one would be enough. Humans are pretty irrational

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          That’s not irrational on some OSes coughWindowscough. There was a time where the hotkey copy would randomly not work with no rhyme or reason.

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        Yeah, I am the same.
        I type the code myself, so I know what it actually means, instead of letting AI do it.

        It might seem different now, but 10-20 years down the line, they might be the same energy.

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          I mean maybe. But one is a deterministic way to do the exact same thing, the other is a nondeterministic way to maybe do a similar thing.

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            Yeah, that’s right.

            But are enough of the AI generation people going to understand the difference?
            I feel like, due to the reduction of quality expectations, they will just end up feeling the same about this as we do about the previous one, despite the difference being visible as night and day for us.

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      It can get worse.

      You could watch them post the text into a notepad doc that they keep open, which has all the stuff they copied and pasted before, then copy the WRONG TEXT back into the target document.

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      Sometimes it’s faster. If I’m already using the mouse to change windows, I’ll use the context menu. If my hands are on the keyboard, I use keyboard shortcuts (e.g. Ctrl or ⌘ + C or V). It just depends on what you’re doing.

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          If you have them side by side, and you have many of them tiled, I guess you could Alt-Tab through them, but I find it easier to click.

          If I’m clicking between three windows and I have four open, do you really think it’s quicker to Alt-Tab? On the Mac I just hit F3 which is Mission Control which I wish Windows had (it’s basically a more elegant Alt-Tab; we have ⌘+Tab but that’s only icons, same thing but not as pretty).

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            Forgive my ignorance as a non-Mac user, but isn’t the screen that shows up when pressing WIN+Tab similar? It shows all your open windows and their content, plus (iirc) let’s you switch to/create additional desktops.

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              Kind of… it’s actually my go-to on Windows 11, which I have to use at work.

              Windows actually only recently supported multiple desktops, which Mac and Linux have had for a while.

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      Honestly, the fact that here in 2026, we still can’t get peripherals like audio, video, and printers to work in a 100% reliable and seamless way, is just embarrassing. It’s been over 30 years of having this stuff mostly standardized (and then re-standardized) and it’s still a shitshow.

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        Blame the short term focus on profit and the system we exist in. There simply is no reason for it to be stable. It’s not a life or death matter, neither for people nor for companies, hence, it will not be prioritised. The world would have to be very different for these “basic” things to be prioritised.

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        Printer companies keep them bad on purpose so you’ll buy new printers hoping they fixed it (or at the high end pay for their maintenance contract).

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          No, it is just really difficult to go from digital yo analog.

          In analoge, it doesn’t matter if something is misaligned by a milimeter. The tollerance is pretty big.

          But digital is always exact. It doesn’t have the leeway to go off the exact path.

          So if something is misaligned even slightly, the mismatch grows exponentially. And that is when the conversion from digital to analog breaks down.

          Meaning, printers will always suffer until we can make analog as exact as digital, which is a very big ask we are currently unable to reach.

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      Learning Vim makes this meme even worse. I lose my mind watching people use the arrow keys to navigate a document.

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    I once asked a co-worker to scroll to the bottom of a list so I could see the last entries.

    I watched in abject horror as he clicked the little down arrow on the scroll bar repeatedly.

    I honestly wanted to wrench the mouse from his grasp and feed it to him.

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      Watching people stumble around refusing to use ALT-Tab will be the thing that causes me to lose hair one day

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    My girlfriend does NOT use her mouse wheel to scroll web pages. It’s melting my brain.

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      Page up, down, space, home, and end are WAY more responsive and faster.

      Problem is, some pages do funky things with keyboard inputs and/or focus odd elements. This basically shoots a 30-year-old page navigation standard in the head.

      Also, don’t get me started on apps crippling back-navigation.

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        The one I absolutely loathe (maybe because I run into it more often) is them stealing when I press Ctrl+f to focus their page’s search textbox.

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      I’ve got a friend who scrolls webpages by middle-clicking and moving the cursor down.

      Drives me insane every time I see her do it.

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        Is she a Firefox user too, then? I feel handicapped in Chromium browsers when middle-clicking does fuck all. If it’s more than three wheel spins away, I too engage “auto-scroll”, as it’s called. Of course you can also scroll fast if your mouse wheel unlocks and spins freely but with the middle click auto-scroll, you can also go slow and indefinitely, which can be handy for longer reads or for presentation / screen share purposes.

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          Pretty sure it’s a Windows feature, because I’ve done it by accident in Chromium browsers, but only on Windows.

          But yeah she’s a Firefox user.

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      Me neither, I grab the scrollbar and speed up/slow down as i’m scrolling through the page. Scroll wheel is 1 speed.

      I also disable smooth scrolling. When I do use the wheel, I hate it when I can see text move to a position and I have to wait for the animation to finish. Nah, I want it to move there instantly, not slowly but smoothly.

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    The middle mouse button pastes the selected text, “home” goes to the start of the line, “end” goes to the end. Thanks for listening to my Ted talk.

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      I taught my wife about clicking the first item and shift-clicking the last item you want selected. She knew about holding CTRL to select/deselect multiple items but not that shortcut. That’s when I realized I don’t even remember learning most things about operating a computer.

      I only recently found out about the middle mouse button thing when accidentally clicking on the new tab button with a folder location on my clipboard.

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    If you try to “help” by taking control, you’ll soon find that all the similar tasks are delegated to you and no learning takes place at all. So your only option is to just watch them fail and bear suffering.

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    however they get it done is fine it’s just when it takes 10x the time to open something they use every day. bitch how do you live like this

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    I have the opposite problem. I don’t care how other people set up their workflow, but I get criticized for not using the defaults while performing better. 🙄

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      I have the problem that I give off a vibe as an onlooker. I’m not trying to be judgmental but I guess I ooze it.

      Edit: Your case makes me chuckle. I used to love watching IT struggle because I got rid of default desktop and quick launch icons. Finally we have all learned to search.